Seeds... do u get what you pay for?

Greenhouse seeds aren't really cheaper they just look that way because you are only getting 5 seeds.

la9 said:

I prefer to be HONEST and don't think I can change into a lying piece of shit.

I understand seems like people think they can do what they want as long as you didn't get it in writing. I prefer the old days of a handshake.

A MAN IS ONLY AS GOOD AS HIS WORD

that is how I was raised.

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DUDE! you of all people...do you remember that you posted this on 9-19-08??

la9 said:

Yeah I don't want to discourage anyone or start an argument but I looked up information this morning on them. They use 1 watt LED's that put out 45 lumens a piece. They use 80 of them for 3600 lumens but the brightest will still be 45 lumens.

a 600 watt HPS puts out 95,000 lumens and the brightest is 95,000 lumens.

They say the LED's match the growth spectrum better and that is what makes the difference.

Personally I don't believe it.

I'll admit I don't own one and why I asked for you to keep us posted on how it does. Sometimes I am wrong, but don't tell anyone.

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and then you started your own thread about 10 days later...

la9 said:

Here is my two grows, the one on the left is under 4 UFO LED grow lights. These are the UFO's that are supposed to be the same as 600 watt HPS

Not even enough to roll a joint with.

On the right, one twenty dollar 150 watt HPS light was used.

So if there are any doubters check out the pics for yourself.

UFO's just suck.

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so...it looks like in 10 days you paid for and shipped FOUR ufo lights, and got a whole grow done in that time right??? damn...if that shitty little thumbnail pic you posted of the plant you grew under the LED's was grown in just a few days, LED's might be better then everyone thinks!!

check out the threads people...the first one (his quote is the 7th reply), and his thread about growing with LED's a few days later...

yea...seems like you mom raised a REAL honest guy...

thats what im saying there not cheaper. i think that greenhouse knows what the fuck they are doing and have heard nothing bad about them.they are a little more than others but i think you get what you pay for in the end kinda....i mena im sure there are cheap seeds out there that are fucking awesome.i just think that the more expensive seeds put more money into the development of the seeds allowing more successful grows....just my opinion though

ive got some afghani#1 from sensi going at the mo, out of 8 only 5 germinated, really pissed off, well see what finised product is like though.

WOW Bagelthief you must have a bad life, and I feel sorry for you, where is all that anger coming from ? Exploding like that on a stranger you don't even know, what kinda problems are you having ? Are you just jealous of me ? I don't know where you are coming from but you should get some new direction in your life.

I didn't even want to waste my time with this post, but if you must get verification, I am a very honest person.

Before you go directing your anger towards me maybe you should read the whole thread instead of just what you want and filling in the rest. I was going to make you actually read it but since I'm a nice guy I'll go ahead and point out the most important fact.

I posted this

"It was BS so why spend a lot of time on it ? I just got tired of those pro-ufo guys posting BS so I thought I'd try some also."

That's right I made a joke and then told everyone. Did you see the LOL's after that ? Everyone got the joke but you didn't ?

If you get that serious over a joke I think you need some medication.

Hopefully this is all I need to post on the subject, sorry for taking up everyone's time with it.

joke. pssh. yea, you just got caught and tried to save your ass.

well this is a confusing topic for the us noobs.

we can get 10 x nirvana seeds for $25 or we can get some more 'high quality' brand 10 for $100.

More people seem to think it is true, you will most likely get a better plant from a more expensive seed, BUT you can definitely get some decent or even great plants from the cheaper seeds also.

I just skimmed the thread, but here's my 2 pence.

I heard something to the order of "A good seed company...."
But if you do a little research, you don't find too many breeders selling direct. Now there are some seedbanks that have their own strains, but also carry other breeders at, sometimes, over twice the price of 'house brand' of the same strain.

Then there is a bit of end-user ego. ("I bought the most amazing seeds!" thing. Where the guy is convinced (correctly or incorrectly) that *his* seeds are gonna be the bomb. Kind like the placebo effect.)

Bagseed? If the bag was good, why would those genetics be crap?

Good weed comes from good seeds. But good seeds won't come from good weed? Seems silly.

dannyking said:

ive got some afghani#1 from sensi going at the mo, out of 8 only 5 germinated, really pissed off, well see what finised product is like though.

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sorry 5 out of 8. silly me.