Seeing what I can get away with growing mushrooms...

what is cubensis B+ spores? is that what you wraped the rice in?

rollNfattys420 said:

what is cubensis B+ spores? is that what you wraped the rice in?

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The spores are just the mushroom "seeds" which are extremely tiny. They generally come on a piece of paper or in a syringe.

hmmmmm. i think im going to try them (growing)....
While they are wet, do they trip you out, just not as good as dry? info on wet vs. dry please.

They're the same wet or dry, the only difference is wet, they're ten times the weight and thus one tenth as potent because of all the water. If you want to store them, you have to dry them. Drying them gets rid of all the water, but keeps everything else.

hey doctor pot I just got some spores in today (Golden Teacher). I was gonna do the cakes but I was going to see if I could just use brown rice instead of getting the b.r.f. If so, do I just soak the brown rice the night before and then steam it with like I would with the flour?

I'm no expert, I'm just sharing what's worked for me. And brown rice has worked just fine for me. You should definitely cook the rice in the same container you plan to let the mycelia grow in, and be very careful to avoid doing things that could contaminate your batch. Other than that, it's a judgment call. One thing that seems to be the case is that any liquid on the bottom that will drip from one side to the other when you tip it, seem to increase the likelihood of bacterial contamination. But soaking the rice overnight before cooking it decreases that chance, so there you have it.

I haven't ever used brown rice flour, so I can't say which works better though.

Hey doc I ordered some spore and I'm gonna try out your technique! Thanks for the info

hey, i hope it works for you. When you put the lids on don't put them on real tight when you put them in the water. And when you take off the lids to put the spores in, do it in a room where there's as little dust as possible floating around. Ie, turn off heat or ac and make sure you're in a room that's not drafty and doesn't have anything moldy in it. ideally, you put the spores in when the jar is warm, but not hot. that way there is moisture that condenses on the spores and makes them grow more quickly.

oh yeah, and be careful with mushrooms, they can seriously fuck with you. if you're not sure how much to eat, err on the side of not enough.

Doctor Pot said:

hey, i hope it works for you. When you put the lids on don't put them on real tight when you put them in the water. And when you take off the lids to put the spores in, do it in a room where there's as little dust as possible floating around. Ie, turn off heat or ac and make sure you're in a room that's not drafty and doesn't have anything moldy in it. ideally, you put the spores in when the jar is warm, but not hot. that way there is moisture that condenses on the spores and makes them grow more quickly.

oh yeah, and be careful with mushrooms, they can seriously fuck with you. if you're not sure how much to eat, err on the side of not enough.

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Cool thanks bro I have had psilocybin mushrooms before in Amsterdam, I can't remember what type but I'm getting the same spores your used. I was wondering if you have ever tried these https://www.rollitup.org/hallucinatory-substances/116455-amanita-muscaria.html ?
I was going to use the small wide mouth mason jars and boil the rice in them with the lid sealed. Mason jars are made to handle the pressure and boiling them should sterilize the whole deal pretty well. I am also using a spore syringe rather than a spore print. Your technique is obviously the cheapest way to grow shrooms! Those kits are a rip off. Whole thing should not cost me more than $40. I was also wondering how many jars i could inoculate with one 10ml spore syringe? Thanks for the info!

Doctor Pot said:

Now I'm trying to see if I can get the mycella to take over an entire casserole dish of brown rice that I baked in the oven. If that works, I'll have a steady supply of shrooms for like a year!

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How did This go??

rollNfattys420 said:

How did This go??

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The rice is just about taken over, but I had to cut off about maybe 20% of it due to contamination. It's not that that much was contaminated, just that I have to cut off a lot to make sure it's all gone. I was a bit too careless after the first week or two, and I made the mistake of turning on a fan in the room before i opened the top. This dish of rice will produce, in maybe a couple weeks.

NewGrowth - not sure, I never used syringes. If you can spread the spores out in the jar though, they will take it over faster, which means you can get mushrooms faster. Any amount of spores can colonize a jar, it's just a matter of how long they will take. But if you use my method, there is probably more likely to be contamination so you want the spores to act as quickly as possible. You can always make more spore prints after you get mushrooms just so you know.

Oh, and I would cut back on the water a bit too. Maybe 1/3 cup of water for every 1/4 cup of rice.

Thanks fro the tips! I picked up mason jars and rice. I'm going to poke two small holes in the lids like I saw in a video. This will allow me to inject the spore into the sterile media without removing the lids. I saw read they recommend 1cc of spore solution per 1/2 pint jar so I should get 10 jars out of my 10cc syringe. Now I'm just waiting for my spores to arrive in the mail. I'll let you know how it goes.

Oh, I forgot to add, I have a bag of dried Amanita muscaria mushrooms, but I'm kind of scared to eat them since I hear they can make you throw up. But I also heard that if you cook them, then they are not nauseating as much. Maybe sometime when I'm bored and don't have anything pressing for the next couple of days.

rollNfattys420 said:

How did This go??

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I ended up getting mushrooms from this technique, but by the time it was ready, the temperature was too low for proper mushroom formation. I didn't realize the mushrooms needed heat for quite a while, and by the time I finally put a heating pad under them, they'd been sitting there for quite a while. They did grow mushrooms though, and quite a lot of them. The only problem was mushrooms only grew from the edge of the cake, not the bottom, which was the part that was face up. A lot of mushrooms ended up growing from the edge of the cake, but they were very crowded and didn't get that big. This method worked, but I think that overall it was easier to use jars.