Self pollinated plant seeds?

Cedrus

Cedrus

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Last season one of my plants ended up producing male pollen sacks within the buds. There weren't a ton and it was already quarantined in another greenhouse so I just kept it. Of course, some of the buds were heavily seeded and now I have about 20 decent looking seeds.

Is there any detriment to growing these kinds of seeds? Would the plants be weaker? Would they be more likely to become hermaphrodites as well? The buds that weren't seeded are pretty good so I'm hoping I can make use of these seeds.
 
DeeTee

DeeTee

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I've heard that chances are they will produce hermaphrodites, have some myself but haven't had the chance to try it yet.
 
Dracolyes

Dracolyes

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The seeds are fine man they are more prone to goin hermie on ya, the thing to keep in mind is you really wanna keep these plants out of stress including heat variations,ph,light burn,nute burn anything that would hurt the plants. Other than that all feminized seeds are is hermied plants so go nuts literally :)
 
homebrew420

homebrew420

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I think Dracoyles said it best.
Keep in mind seeds of that nature are where +80% of all elites are found. Good luck

Peace
 
Cedrus

Cedrus

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Cool, thanks for the help everyone. Yeah unfortunately it was neglected in my second greenhouse that's not setup very well so I think a combo of shit soil, temp extremes, and dried out soil made it go herm. Not sure why i kept it if i didnt have the space or soil. I'll try a couple seeds and save a spot in my good greenhouse for one of them, if female. So that's how they get fem seeds? From hermis?
 
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jmoore714

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I had a plant seed itself just from purposely stressing the fuck out of it, never saw only male parts tho. It was probably my dankest plant before the stress, i couldn't be happier. I have hundreds of feminized seeds from one of my favorite plants. Out of the 50 i popped, 49 were female, one was a hermie. I am about to harvest the plants and they look/smell amazing, no worse, and maybe better than the plant they came from. If you are able to identify female vs male/hermie i don't see any reason not to try it, unless the original plant was not potent or desirable.
 
mrCRC420

mrCRC420

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Once again :) A female plant that produces male pollen sacs will hold female pollen, this "reverse" plant can pollinate itself creating the first generation of IBL (in-bred line) seeds. These seeds will all be female, as the female pollen lands on female buds, there is no male gene in there. And since the parent plant is a hermit, those seeds have a higher likelihood of harming. Grow them out, some of my best ever genetics are IBL seeds like yours. You get cool genetic balances.
 
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JointOperation

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seeds like this were u know the genetics.. arent that bad.. but.. if ur plant hermied like a bitch.. early on in flower.. and showed lots of male traits.. u will have a good chance of hermis.. but what most people dont understand is that.. a HEALTHY plant is less likely to hermi. so any hermi prone genetics just need to be grown with care.. and need to be watched for nanners.. other then that.. if u dont want the extra work to be looking for nanners.. and shit. then dont pop them.. if u dont mind doing some extra work.. pop them ..

what strain? and has it hermied before ? or first time? was it stressed or ? poorly grown? lots of problems? or healthy... ?if healthy and it tossed nanners.. i wouldnt pop the seeds atleast not anywere were other plants that are not hermi are growing.. u dont want tons of seeds in all your buds.. but if u have another place to grow them away from everything else.. what do u have to lose right?

goodluck man..
 
mrCRC420

mrCRC420

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My blue mystic (mentioned two posts ago) hermied and self pollinated, I have not any nanners from it's seeds (flowered 4 so far). I also had one that I tried to force to herm (to create fem pollen for breeding). I flowered her in a solo cup for 10 weeks and interrupted her dark cycle frequently to induce stress. Nothing. No pollen sacs (aka nanners aka male flowers). So I just smoked her. Joint Operation is right about some strains being assholes and herming - but only some strains. Anyways, I'm really surprised that folks don't want to pop the beans they create in their garden.... free quality genetics anyone? I guess most growers are scared of breeding. And most haven't had hands-on exp. with this topic, so they just post outdated info that they read online years ago. 20 seeds in a quality strain is worth the reduction in cannabinoids. I'm about to cross my bubblegum to itself to feminized the seeds and secure the genetics.
 
bf80255

bf80255

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do not grow those if you care about theintegrity of your own genetics,plants that exhibit intersex traits under any stress should be immedietly culled. especially if your inexperienced enough with genetics and breeding to ask this question (im not trying to be an a**hole or anything just want you to know how serious it is, would you wanta hermi to pop up down the line right smack dab in the center of a sensi grow once a little stress came around?
 
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verge

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Hey hope all is well. I have a question, my moby dick is about to be at week 5 flower. Earlier on before that the room temp got a bit hot (91degreez) and burnt the top cola of the moby which had been begged for 40 days. I had ak autos in the room also at 18/6 but the moby was getting a bit to large so i had to change the light cycle to 12/12. Lets just say the autos were recently harvested as a results because they were 10 wk flowering plants unless it meant a total of ten wks meaning 2 weeks veg and 8 weeks flower, idk but they were just chopped because I could see dying white hairs about 2 weeks after the light switch. The moby now at week 4 flower is looking great but i just notice about 2 day ago a nanner which is where my dehumidifier once was until I noticed that light that emits from it is actually brighter when lights out. I thought that by it being a green spec it wouldn't matter needless to say the plant is extremely sticky but as i said earlier the top cola was literally burnt off, not a lot but lets just say it got hard and crispy in that spot. On the contrary the buds decided to continue to grow around that burnt spot. My question is do you think I should cut her down because of the nanner and the fact that it could be a hermie and call it a loss , I noticed some dying hairs on some of the buds but i think its from the drooping of the fan leaves buttoms touching the white hairs. Tell me what you think it'd be greatly appreciated.
 
bf80255

bf80255

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your just smokin it and its your only plant in the room just clip the nanners and be vigilant, let her finish up and ditch the dehumidifier.

verge said:
Hey hope all is well. I have a question, my moby dick is about to be at week 5 flower. Earlier on before that the room temp got a bit hot (91degreez) and burnt the top cola of the moby which had been begged for 40 days. I had ak autos in the room also at 18/6 but the moby was getting a bit to large so i had to change the light cycle to 12/12. Lets just say the autos were recently harvested as a results because they were 10 wk flowering plants unless it meant a total of ten wks meaning 2 weeks veg and 8 weeks flower, idk but they were just chopped because I could see dying white hairs about 2 weeks after the light switch. The moby now at week 4 flower is looking great but i just notice about 2 day ago a nanner which is where my dehumidifier once was until I noticed that light that emits from it is actually brighter when lights out. I thought that by it being a green spec it wouldn't matter needless to say the plant is extremely sticky but as i said earlier the top cola was literally burnt off, not a lot but lets just say it got hard and crispy in that spot. On the contrary the buds decided to continue to grow around that burnt spot. My question is do you think I should cut her down because of the nanner and the fact that it could be a hermie and call it a loss , I noticed some dying hairs on some of the buds but i think its from the drooping of the fan leaves buttoms touching the white hairs. Tell me what you think it'd be greatly appreciated.
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Hobbes

Hobbes

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For my first grow Crazy Matt gave me a baggie if seeds that he lifted from his father's stash. There were probably 100 seeds and I killed 50 trying to germinate them wrong, I got 12 to sprout.

I didn't know anything about growing bud or sexing plants. I got lucky and got 12 females from 12 seeds, but I still wouldn't grow from bag seed now.

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ProPheT 216

ProPheT 216

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Selfing from nanners at the end of flower is different then full blown hermie the whole grow. Most of the time the seeds aren't any good tho because the nanners show up so late. Most of the time a clone will also not produce nanners even if the original mother did.
 
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