Wow!!! I thought more highly of you being one of the more versed and active participants here on RIU but i was sadly mistaken for you used your good for evil and closed your mind and then called me out as an exhibitionist.
The fact of the matter is what is really possible in a hydro system? Why do some clone with not a problem while others cannot get one to strike? Why do others get 2 oz per plant while others struggle to get that 1/4 oz?. Why does one use EBB & Flo while one hand waters? ITS ENDLESS!!!!!!
You have accused me of making fabricated statements for the only purpose of popularity????? WOW you must live in a pretty nice glass house throwing stones like that.
I have said it again and again and i will say it once more for those who are above us minions of RIU.
THERE ARE SO MANY WAYS OF GROWING AND GETTING SATISFACTORY RESULTS THAT ANYONE ARROGANT ENOUGH TO THINK THAT THEY ARE ALL KNOWING AND ABOVE A SIMPLE LAW OF JUST MAYBE IT COULD WORK REALLY DON'T BELONG GIVING ADVICE!
For all that is holy we just elected a BLACK PRESIDENT and if the people of America could do that well then maybe just maybe i clone with 80 degree water!!!!
Call me what you will i don't give a fuck, but popularity hound I don't think so.
I got what i needed off this site with reading and research and you know what? I don't think I used one single idea or any technical experience of yours in my grow.
HUH I guess maybe it was because you said it was impossible to clone in 80 degree water.
The world is a bigger place than you and if you don't open your eyes and mind you will miss it.
actually, i never mentioned clones. when talking clones, they root faster the higher the temp (not past 80-85f). however.... one must take into consideration that if the water is kept warm, it must be changed twice as frequently.
i have grown hydro in many forms. not all, there are some techs i haven't tried (like a m16 bullet box hand stirred for aeration). many things work. i'm even in the process of writing a book on how to do things right the wrong way; kp's guide to growing ghetto.....
but. and it's a big BUT! res temps consistently above 75f will create water problems. if you change your solution every 5-7 days, you might get by... but, this is not ideal. heat causes algea. algea causes rot. all these root rot threads you see? it's from heat, nothing else. i know this from my experience, and from learning from a commercial pepper farmer (all hydro). rules and guidelines are set for a reason.
now.... with all this said...... if you had a res temp of 80 f, and were happy.... imagine what you would do if you had your res at the proper temp and got up to 40% more yield?
btw, i did do a dwc bucket that weighed out at 15.5oz dry as a bone. though the plants will finish even if not in ideal situations, it doesn't mean you're going to maximize potential.
now the biggest problem i have here is the way you've responded to another experienced member. the smart ass attitude of this forum is finally starting to wear on me again. LB is trying to help a mass of peoples, not just one member. anyone who reads this thread NEEDS TO KNOW THAT 80F IS TOO HIGH! it might work for you, but, it's not the standard, and def bad info to spread on a board. your 80f remark could kill hundreds or thousands of plants if no one called you on it..... n00bs read, and they take everything literally.
so.....
again......
we aren't talking about cloning in 80f water; we are talking about growing in 80f water. that's bad. very bad. for a cloner, it will work (although cloners are inefficient at best), but for full systems, it won't (not to perfection standards anyway...). i clone in peat pucks (you can't DO that!) with 100% strike rate. i've not lost a cutting in over 4 years. no matter WHAT i do. clones are easy.
but, i do know many people who've had to start their grows over completely and from scratch, due to high res temps, or running a pump on 24 hours a day. high temps = bad stuf, like semen sludge in a res, root rot, pythium, etc.
sorry if i came across as a smart ass, but it seemed the appropriate response to your posted responses. kudos.