Sensible Medical Regulation

Why is going to the doctor so expensive?

It started long before ObmamaCare.

A short stay in the hospital can cost tens of thousands of dollars.

Why or how can they charge us so much for doing very little (in most cases)?
We sign a paper before they 'practice' on us saying we can't sue them if something goes wrong.

It just doesn't add up.

Nutes and Nugs said:

Why is going to the doctor so expensive?

It started long before ObmamaCare.

A short stay in the hospital can cost tens of thousands of dollars.

Why or how can they charge us so much for doing very little (in most cases)?
We sign a paper before they 'practice' on us saying we can't sue them if something goes wrong.

It just doesn't add up.

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Are signing liability waivers common practice before surgery? TBH I've never heard of that...

echelon1k1 said:

Are signing liability waivers common practice before surgery? TBH I've never heard of that...

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Yes, if you read the waiver before you sign it, you really can't sue them.
Even if I take the dog to the vet you sign before surgery.
My dog dies, well, don't ask us, you owe us 2500. or whatever.

So if I might end up fucked up after they 'operate' on me, I can't sue them (unless I have a lot of cash for a lawyer).
Class action lawsuits work.

But how do they justify all that money for some sorta shot in the dark medical procedure?

I broke a bone years ago. Was in the hospital 2 days. $20,000.
Looked at the bill and truly amazed at what they charge for little shit.
Just say something like bandages.
$473.
I could buy the same '"bandages" at the local drug store for $10.00

Why is medial so expensive?
It drives all of us down.

Nutes and Nugs said:

Yes, if you read the waiver before you sign it, you really can't sue them.
Even if I take the dog to the vet you sign before surgery.
My dog dies, well, don't ask us, you owe us 2500. or whatever.

So if I might end up fucked up after they 'operate' on me, I can't sue them (unless I have a lot of cash for a lawyer).
Class action lawsuits work.

But how do they justify all that money for some sorta shot in the dark medical procedure?

I broke a bone years ago. Was in the hospital 2 days. $20,000.
Looked at the bill and truly amazed at what they charge for little shit.
Just say something like bandages.
$473.
I could buy the same '"bandages" at the local drug store for $10.00

Why is medial so expensive?
It drives all of us down.

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THB that sucks... I can only imagine what that would be like as I've never experienced it. I know liability waivers are common place in veterinary practice, I did not realise that is now extending to human medical procedures...

In the same situation you described above (broken bone) how much do you think it would run you with Obamacare in place?

echelon1k1 said:

THB that sucks... I can only imagine what that would be like as I've never experienced it. I know liability waivers are common place in veterinary practice, I did not realise that is now extending to human medical procedures...

In the same situation you described above (broken bone) how much do you think it would run you with Obamacare in place?

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Good point though I have no idea.
Have the same job and insurance for years.
I wouldn't want to be a new guy looking for a full time job went obamacare starts though.
Many places won't hire full time employees anymore.

and besides all your paying for is their best guess, they don't know for sure about anything, that is until ya die then they autopsy your ass!!

slowandsteady said:

and besides all your paying for is their best guess, they don't know for sure about anything, that is until ya die then they autopsy your ass!!

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Yes, a practice of theory we pay way too much for.
How can they justify these costs?

A political post.
Govt and pharmaceuticals both win big time.
Healthcare, carcare, petcare.
All a big racket.

and the side effects from the chemicals/medicine is worst then what ya have, or are so addictive it takes another drug to get off of it. all sanctioned by the government which caters to he who has the most money!!!!

slowandsteady said:

and the side effects from the chemicals/medicine is worst then what ya have, or are so addictive it takes another drug to get off of it. all sanctioned by the government which caters to he who has the most money!!!!

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Also the side effects of crappy foods (more money) that put some people in the hospital.

There is a reason they call it practicing medicine. The vets learn the charging tricks from the Drs.
It's all a racket,like our Gov is & the insurance all of them are in it together.

Nutes and Nugs said:

Yes, if you read the waiver before you sign it, you really can't sue them.
Even if I take the dog to the vet you sign before surgery.
My dog dies, well, don't ask us, you owe us 2500. or whatever.

So if I might end up fucked up after they 'operate' on me, I can't sue them (unless I have a lot of cash for a lawyer).
Class action lawsuits work.

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You're correct that liability waivers are often employed in medical practice, but that doesn't mean they actually prevent suits. Courts often find the waivers to be totally void and allow medical malpractice suits to proceed despite an ironclad agreement to waive the right to sue. What is the purpose of the waiver, then? I would assert the goal is just to make you think you can't possibly sue so that you'll never bother to contact an attorney who will tell you that the waiver you signed was irrelevant. Waivers in veterinary medicine are enforceable, though. They're distinct.

As for needing cash to hire a lawyer, most medical malpractice suits are contingency suits. You pay nothing for a lawyer and the lawyer only collects if he wins your case.