September 11th, 2001: Inside Job?

What really happened that day?

  • Muslim terrorists. Move along, nothing to see here.

    Votes: 20 29.0%

  • Inside job. Too many coincidences.

    Votes: 43 62.3%

  • Not sure. Both theories seem plausible.

    Votes: 6 8.7%
  • Total voters
    69
echelon1k1

echelon1k1

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guy incognito said:
It's a continuation. He has a page called "nutty physics" that demonstrates just how nutty the physics have to be to conform to the truthers claim. Instead of that convincing the truthers though they stuck to their guns despite the evidence and made up even more crazy claims, which he addressed in "really nutty physics". It's not cherry picking, he is responding to specific questions and claims by the truthers. In fact he explains that all literally at the top of the page. If you bothered to even glance at the page you would have already known this. I guess you had your mind made up already though.
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Firsty I don't subscibe to the controlled demo, no planes, or half of the truther bullshit you're trying to label me with. Please point me to the evidence that would corroborate your assertion the cars were moved. Pictures, work orders, witness statements anything other than opinions based on examinations of a photo as i've heard them all. Furthermore, did the author attend the site and examine, in person, the toasted cars or take samples that could be analysed, with a proven chain of custody? I've never put forward an opinion for the damage caused in the pictures, rather I asked for an explanation. You posted one that I don't find satisfactory. My question was specifically about the cars, nothing else.

guy incognito said:
And yes, your logic that it was an inside job of epic proportions that was coordinated and executed with surgical precision without a single person coming forward, even though all of the actual evidence points towards a different conclusion
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I admit it was an outside attack, supported by foreign governments with help from moles at all levels - inside your government and others. I'm in no way implying that everyone inside your government was involved as 99.9% are patriotic public servents. Without people on the inside there is no way the attacks could have taken place. Without support from the Government of Saudi Arabia the attacks could not have taken place.

Also are you familiar with the terms "Sensitive Compartmented Information" or "Special Access Programme"? I ask as the later was an being run jointly by the DIA & SOCOM in '99 that identified most of the hijackers well before 9/11. This is just one of the many example of "opportunities missed" in the leadup to the attacks. Would this be classified as a coincidence or just crucial intelligence that inadvertantly fell through the cracks?
Do you now understand why the people in the know with a security clearance are crucial to understanding what happened that day...
 
ginjawarrior

ginjawarrior

Well-Known Member
echelon1k1 said:
Firsty I don't subscibe to the controlled demo, no planes, or half of the truther bullshit you're trying to label me with. Please point me to the evidence that would corroborate your assertion the cars were moved. Pictures, work orders, witness statements anything other than opinions based on examinations of a photo as i've heard them all. Furthermore, did the author attend the site and examine, in person, the toasted cars or take samples that could be analysed, with a proven chain of custody? I've never put forward an opinion for the damage caused in the pictures, rather I asked for an explanation. You posted one that I don't find satisfactory. My question was specifically about the cars, nothing else.



I admit it was an outside attack, supported by foreign governments with help from moles at all levels - inside your government and others. I'm in no way implying that everyone inside your government was involved as 99.9% are patriotic public servents. Without people on the inside there is no way the attacks could have taken place. Without support from the Government of Saudi Arabia the attacks could not have taken place.

Also are you familiar with the terms "Sensitive Compartmented Information" or "Special Access Programme"? I ask as the later was an being run jointly by the DIA & SOCOM in '99 that identified most of the hijackers well before 9/11. This is just one of the many example of "opportunities missed" in the leadup to the attacks. Would this be classified as a coincidence or just crucial intelligence that inadvertantly fell through the cracks?
Do you now understand why the people in the know with a security clearance are crucial to understanding what happened that day...
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for what purpose would there be in toasting alot of cars in a different part of town and not having it reported?

this is a serious question what would be the purpose in it happening and the purpose of keeping it secret (an amazingly hard task to keep it secret)
 
guy incognito

guy incognito

Well-Known Member
echelon1k1 said:
Firsty I don't subscibe to the controlled demo, no planes, or half of the truther bullshit you're trying to label me with. Please point me to the evidence that would corroborate your assertion the cars were moved. Pictures, work orders, witness statements anything other than opinions based on examinations of a photo as i've heard them all. Furthermore, did the author attend the site and examine, in person, the toasted cars or take samples that could be analysed, with a proven chain of custody? I've never put forward an opinion for the damage caused in the pictures, rather I asked for an explanation. You posted one that I don't find satisfactory. My question was specifically about the cars, nothing else.
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How about photographic evidence showing the same car in that picture all burned up at it's original location? Would that be satisfactory?

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=208961

By this point the default position should be to agree with the official story. Even on some aspect that I am not educated in and have not done any research on I will be inclined to believe the official story over an alternative explanation because so far the official story has a 100% success rate. Face it, it happened.
 
Lurkdewitt

Lurkdewitt

Well-Known Member
I believe it was extremist Muslims who caused 9/11 which was caused by the United States' overbearing political and social need to police and micromanage the whole earth. Team America:world police is no more ridiculous than the way it really is. The terrorist attacks were a by product of decades of stupid foreign policies. IMHO
 
LocknessMD

LocknessMD

Active Member
The Apollo moon walk in 1969 was staged in Hollywood.

The Royal family can Shape shift.

Global Warming is going to kill us all, only Al Gore can save us.

President Roosevelt (FDR) let Pearl Harbor happen.

And Cannabis "Cures" cancer.
 
echelon1k1

echelon1k1

New Member
LocknessMD said:
If i wanted attention I would put the guy who murdered a bunch of innocent people and made the Rolling Stones cover as my avatar.
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Well then the US shouldn't support, fund, arm and train terrorists...

[video=youtube;KJeLy0ZCtT0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJeLy0ZCtT0[/video]
 
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BossHoggins

Member
For a country that can't keep it's presidents penis private.. I could never believe it was an inside job.

Look at Nixon and Watergate. You had an incredibly intelligent administration and staff that were all completely ruthless and willing to break whatever law they needed to and they still got caught.
 
blacksun

blacksun

New Member
BossHoggins said:
For a country that can't keep it's presidents penis private.. I could never believe it was an inside job.

Look at Nixon and Watergate. You had an incredibly intelligent administration and staff that were all completely ruthless and willing to break whatever law they needed to and they still got caught.
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Just because clinton and nixon were retarded, doesn't mean they all are.

Besides, if all american secrets are as easily obtained as you claim, can you tell me, what are they working on at area 51 right this very second? You have no idea? Really?....Shocking.
 
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BossHoggins

Member
blacksun said:
Just because clinton and nixon were retarded, doesn't mean they all are.

Besides, if all american secrets are as easily obtained as you claim, can you tell me, what are they working on at area 51 right this very second? You have no idea? Really?....Shocking.
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I'm sorry, but neither of them were retarded. Far from it. You must have missed the whole part about how Nixon felt he was above the law and was completely ruthless, heading a staff that was willing to commit any number of atrocious crimes.

It's not that secrets are easy to obtain. Secrets are simply too difficult to keep.

By now, somebody deeply involved in 911 would have come forward. Somebody that saw something they shouldn't have would have come forward with the proof that is undeniable.

I haven't seen any of that yet.
 
blacksun

blacksun

New Member
Your post if full of "would have"s.

ie: speculation


Also, you try to use the clinton exposing himself fiasco as a point to talk shit about how well americans keep secrets, but then you defend clinton when I call him retarded because of the exposing himself fiasco.

You try to talk shit about nixon because of watergate as a point about how well americans keep secrets, but then you defend nixon when I call him retarded because of the watergate fiasco

You seriously need to make up your mind.



And again, just because two presidents got caught fucking up one time (each) doesn't mean you magically know all their secrets.

The reality is that you couldn't be further from the truth. You know very little to, and this is much more likely, absolutely nothing.
 
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