SERIOUS DAMAGE? 7th WEEK DAY 48 FLOWER DIYING LEAVES

Bukvičák

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The issue is we dont use coco, is blonde turba mixed with coco so is more like soil with a lot of coco...is 50% turba and 50% soil ...so for the first two week in veg plants dont got any nutrients as the soil got the nuts.

How would you treat it PH/EC wise ?


pd: actually I think something is changed in the sustrate we buy usually, but cant say it yet. Cause if our charts been working well for long time...this weird issue in only two of us , just cause chanching to LED ...not sure but I dont think is only the LED chart....but I am very new to LED CO2.
Not blaming other is clear that we did wrong our maths about nutes +food+ec+ph = dissaster. But we took our time to play safe with the info we had about LED + co2 +soilcoco
Can you post that mix please?
 

Xganggreen

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IMHO looks like excess N in these pics,ask me how I know . Possibility that this continued to "toxicity", which itself causes leaf issues, causing nutrient lockout? Have you done any "flush" to attempt a "fresh" start and try to rebalance, clear excess, nutrients? Just throwing this against the wall. Have a great day. TC
thank you for your words.
Agree in those pictures got a N issue. Yes the plants been flush very generously with only ph 5.8 . no EC added or nothing else, and now they are driying . the flush / run off EC is with tap water EC 0.2 (PH down to 5.8) and the results were: 0.6 mainly

hope the smart pots, the room at 29ºC, vents in higher speed and CO2 at 1500ppm makes the pots dry a lil quickly so some potassium could be feed
 

Xganggreen

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I am afraid I am small fish helping this big operation my friend...
we are not a big operation hahahhahahha just a 3/4 friends who love grow and like to get more knowledge.
I got friends growing for 25 years that dont get very technical but they see a plant and I am jealous about how well they can read it. I admire that. Tech stuff knowledge is ok but the experience is a real value, so I guess I can learn a lot from you.
 

Bukvičák

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we are not a big operation hahahhahahha just a 3/4 friends who love grow and like to get more knowledge.
I got friends growing for 25 years that dont get very technical but they see a plant and I am jealous about how well they can read it. I admire that. Tech stuff knowledge is ok but the experience is a real value, so I guess I can learn a lot from you.
Yeah I have grown some plants, but I am limited and it all goes for my own and family consumption, so I do not invest some horrible money into controled environment as its running is also expensive for me and might be flagged by too high kWs. Thats what being said, I never ran CO2 and fine tuning around that so I think can not be helpful. I can be saying the problem is in your medium and it can be just that CO2 and I do not want to mislead you by my unknowlegment. You feel me?
 
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Xganggreen

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Can you post that mix please?
Can you post that mix u use?
Thank you, I do feel you and appreciated your thoughts and sharing them a lot.

so the mix is Golden Label "budget" which is swedish blonde turba + coco + perlite . Cant find the soil characteristic chart as they sell the regular labels and two side productions named "budget" and "custom"

Could be this ?...cause being check and when my friend bought the bags sainthey are running out of custom and brought "budget" instead ...and the bags are plain white...nothing print on them..... could the soil come charge with this high level of calcium? Or not get washed for some reason?

I did the flush/flood the whole room and the run off gave me EC 0.6 ( being watered with EC 0.2)

I am looking for Cal/mag charts for different soils without much luck. Any idea where to find one? like different stages calcium consumption?
my best was an article about divide in 4 stages and start at 25% of your tap water , then add 25% more, for finnish veg and the 25% for the pre bloom and bloom....makes sense to you?
 

Xganggreen

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Yeah I have grown some plants, but I am limited and it all goes for my own and family consumption, so I do not invest some horrible money into controled environment as its running is also expensive for me and might be flagged by too high kWs. Thats what being said, I never ran CO2 and fine tuning around that so I think can not be helpful. I can be saying the problem is in your medium and it can be just that CO2 and I do not want to mislead you by my unknowlegment. You feel me?
BTW :
CO2 is very easy and cheap and makes the difference. I can t send you where to get a small two burners (wasnt easy to find) that goes for 300€ and is very well made (and safe) and the gas...gas is cheap and consumption...with one big can you have for a few harvests.
2 friends being using it for the last year and with sodium was great, they change to LED and makes no sense grow in LEd without CO2 so much difference.
 

Bukvičák

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Thank you, I do feel you and appreciated your thoughts and sharing them a lot.

so the mix is Golden Label "budget" which is swedish blonde turba + coco + perlite . Cant find the soil characteristic chart as they sell the regular labels and two side productions named "budget" and "custom"

Could be this ?...cause being check and when my friend bought the bags sainthey are running out of custom and brought "budget" instead ...and the bags are plain white...nothing print on them..... could the soil come charge with this high level of calcium? Or not get washed for some reason?

I did the flush/flood the whole room and the run off gave me EC 0.6 ( being watered with EC 0.2)

I am looking for Cal/mag charts for different soils without much luck. Any idea where to find one? like different stages calcium consumption?
my best was an article about divide in 4 stages and start at 25% of your tap water , then add 25% more, for finnish veg and the 25% for the pre bloom and bloom....makes sense to you?
Can you find peat/coir ratio somewhere because when I try to search “swedish blonde turba” google shows me some hoe :wall: and no I do not understand your question about calcium, it has to be in ballance with magnesium and other elements. And I still see no available calcium for plants in tap water... Thats the problem with mixing two different mediums together. “Soil” does not need any cations support but coco does, thats why you have to use calmag as well as nutrients everyday watering, in “soil” you neednt...
 

Xganggreen

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Can you find peat/coir ratio somewhere because when I try to search “swedish blonde turba” google shows me some hoe :wall: and no I do not understand your question about calcium, it has to be in ballance with magnesium and other elements. And I still see no available calcium for plants in tap water... Thats the problem with mixing two different mediums together. “Soil” does not need any cations support but coco does, thats why you have to use calmag as well as nutrients everyday watering, in “soil” you neednt...
I asked about the mix specifications. as it was a white plain bag I am waiting the grow store to call us back.
I was research about to and if you type golden label soil mix it will show some bags but yes...if you search for a swedish blonde...well..you porn will distract you hahhahahhahahh Thank you very much for invest your time on it.

I am looking for cal/mag recommended amounts depending soil and grow stage. (with the kind of cannabis would be awesome but I guess "they" are busy developing the teletransporter.
 

Xganggreen

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these pictures re from right now, a day afeter being flush/flood letting them to dry till tomorrow to give them some nuts , ph 6.5 and not cal/mag yet
 

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