Sevren's Testing Garden

Hey Sev what up? Male IMO but I like to see a cluster first before I trash or isolate. Plus length of the stem coming off the nodes makes me think so too. Been doing a lot of reg seeds lately and you really should be seeing some pistils from nodes above. Then again IDK that strain.
 
Yeah this plant has been throwing me curve balls (no pun intended). When sexing, it would show these calyx shaped parts but, no pistils and no clustering. So I waited, and waited, and waited for around 14 days during sexing and finally....thought i saw some pistils. So I topped, and revegged. Now in late veg, my other 2 girls (different strains) are showing their calyx and pistils, but this one is just showing me pistil-less calyxes. Guessing I'm just going to have to wait some more to see if this one gets up-potted or not.

The google says this is a thing, but I can only find one example, and can't always trust the google.
 
Experiment Garden Round 2
And I'm back with another round of plants, using shit I don't know a damned thing about, and trying to keep these girls alive. Last round I rebuilt my old light, retiring a few CXA 3000 AB's and added on two CXB 3500 AD's, one CXB 4000 BB with four of the CXA 3000 AB's left over, and bumped it up to 400W. Moving from individual CPU heatsinks to a single heatsink and fan. So far it's seving me well and don't really plan on tweaking anytime soon (yet).
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This test garden, I made the switch from soil to coco and Jacks 3-2-1. It's been a bit of a curve ball, but I'm figuring it out. I think. Making a single batch of nutrients is easier, but has proven to have it's own complications. After finally getting a EC pen, I found following the 3-2-1 recipe was giving me a high EC of 1.7, the culprit being my hard water. After nixing the Mag and cutting the Cal-Nitrate by half, I leveled out back to 1.3 EC. Still watching the plants to see how they like it, as one of the girls is very particular.

Speaking of the girls, this rounds genetics are:
Bodhis Head Trip (Chocolate Trip x Snow Lotus)
Exotic Genetixs Grease Monkey
TGAs Jillybean

Vegging they did all very well, the Grease Monkey looking and performing the best. It did not mind the high 1.7 EC at all, and pretty much held up to everything I did to her while I was figuring things out. The Head Trip is very, particular and I think the high EC might have stunted her as she did not respond well to being transplanted and trained on top of it all. Jillybean has been a complete disaster and it's a small miracle she's still alive. During training she was very brittle and half of her limbs broke off. I managed to save one with wet paper towels, tape and superglue, but the other just broke completely off over night. I had setup a reservoir for blumats and her blumat had failed at some point, drying her out. More or less flushed her and she sprung back to life, but most of her lower growth was just shot to shit. And so here we are, 6 days into flower...

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Welcome back! Sounds like a bit of a bumpy start, but you have everything on a good road now. I always find it interesting when people switch from soil to coco, or either to hydro (or in the other direction). I'm looking forward to seeing how this goes for you.
 
Humanrob said:
Welcome back! Sounds like a bit of a bumpy start, but you have everything on a good road now. I always find it interesting when people switch from soil to coco, or either to hydro (or in the other direction). I'm looking forward to seeing how this goes for you.
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Thanks, yeah I've been just trying different things each grow to see what does what, and how I like going about it. Never used coco, never used hydro nutrients, new stuff all around.
 
Sevren said:
Thanks, yeah I've been just trying different things each grow to see what does what, and how I like going about it. Never used coco, never used hydro nutrients, new stuff all around.
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I've been changing things up almost every grow. The down side is that I'm constantly in some part of the learning curve, and feel like I've never squeezed the most out of any particular system. But there's always something to improve. It's not that I specifically seek change, its more that I'm looking for my perfect setup and haven't found it yet. At least at this point I've got my lights down, and I can't afford to improve on that anymore so its a good thing I'm happy with where I landed (DIY COB). When this run finishes in about three weeks, the the ones in veg are getting up-potted into sip containers. That's my next big adventure. Going to DIY some this weekend.
 
Humanrob said:
I've been changing things up almost every grow. The down side is that I'm constantly in some part of the learning curve, and feel like I've never squeezed the most out of any particular system. But there's always something to improve. It's not that I specifically seek change, its more that I'm looking for my perfect setup and haven't found it yet. At least at this point I've got my lights down, and I can't afford to improve on that anymore so its a good thing I'm happy with where I landed (DIY COB). When this run finishes in about three weeks, the the ones in veg are getting up-potted into sip containers. That's my next big adventure. Going to DIY some this weekend.
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Pretty much exactly in the same boat. I'm always changing it up every other grow, looking for that setup that works best in my current scenario. I don't have a lot of room (a pantry), I don't have anyone to share notes with or bounce ideas off with, to sit down and collaborate or theory craft with. Basically got this place, the google, and a shit ton of notes. I study other grows, environmental factors, feeding, styles, etc, trying to create the best environment for my garden. And since my environmental factors are different, I have to figure out what's off, adapt and hope I don't fuck something up too much. It drives me absolutely crazy that I can't do a proper side by side comparison to test things out correctly and efficiently so that I can adapt quicker and not have to wait a couple months or longer to test something out. But I assume a lot of people here are dealing with the same issues and are here for the same reasons so I'll just end this rant.
 
Sevren said:
Pretty much exactly in the same boat. I'm always changing it up every other grow, looking for that setup that works best in my current scenario. I don't have a lot of room (a pantry), I don't have anyone to share notes with or bounce ideas off with, to sit down and collaborate or theory craft with. Basically got this place, the google, and a shit ton of notes. I study other grows, environmental factors, feeding, styles, etc, trying to create the best environment for my garden. And since my environmental factors are different, I have to figure out what's off, adapt and hope I don't fuck something up too much. It drives me absolutely crazy that I can't do a proper side by side comparison to test things out correctly and efficiently so that I can adapt quicker and not have to wait a couple months or longer to test something out. But I assume a lot of people here are dealing with the same issues and are here for the same reasons so I'll just end this rant.
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I'm in a similar situation. In our small house because of space and climate control issues, moving forward I'll be down to just the 2x4 tent for my indoor. All of my experimenting is focused on two goals: simplicity, and quality. I definitely want quantity, but its not as important as quality. Hydro for various reasons is way too much work for me, does not meet my definition of simple. Soil, or some hybrid based on soil, is the outer edge of my envelope.

My other "always changing things up" variable is that (so far) I have rarely grown the same strain twice. So that's another overlay of learning curve. When I changed over to my COB light I had different strains and they all reacted differently to the lights. If I had run all of any one of those strains, I would have come away with a completely different idea of how to work with COB lights -- so in that case variety was an asset.

I was doing fine with good sized cloth pots (usually 7-10 gallon), and using dry time release fertilizer like Happy Frog Fruit and Flower. Add some cal-mag and tea to the water, and that's it. As far as keeping it simple it seemed that was about as good as it gets. For various reasons, instead of running two in the tent this time I went with four. Two are in five gallon, two are in three gallon. They drink at entirely different paces, especially as they get bigger and close to finishing. Sip pots will take care of that issue.... and I will be one step closer to my personal nirvana of simplicity.

I think there are quite a few people here in similar situations to yours, testing and working through various methods to find what fits their personality and needs. And there is a lot of good information here. This should be an interesting ride.
 
I'm more or less confined to a 2x5 tent as well, in a cramped pantry. My goals are similar, but striving to be more efficient that hopefully leads to better and better flowers. Basically, get everything right when starting instead of having to fix something every other week. I realize shit happens and you'll have to fix something sometimes, but getting to where the frequency is not as often would be great.

I've also never grown the same strain twice. I can only grow 3-4 plants at a time, in one spot, veg to flower and extremely lucky if I can knock out 2 grows a year. With so many cool strains out there, and not a lot of options (getting a clone would be like winning the lottery), I try to grow different shit as much as possible. I'm already super excited for my next planned grow as I got my hands on a CBD strain that has 0% THC and 25% CBD. If it actually grows out like that, again, winning the lottery.

Running soil with all the amendments, various bottles of nutrients, yadda yadda yadda, just became an ever growing assortment of crap and no where to put them. It was fine when I first started with a cardboard box, one plant in a 1 gallon pot, living alone with various places to store things and devoted attention. Now...not so much. Now I'd like to run it like a lab, where I can just precisely monitor everything and hopefully not annoy my significant other.

It should be an interesting ride, as long as I can figure more of this EC thing out and not kill these poor girls in the process.
 
Week 2

Everyone is stacking up nicely, stretching, building and budding. Even the scrappy little Jillybean is finally starting to take off. Grease Monkey is turning into a monster and organizing her is starting to get fun, having to continuously prune her back and tie her down.

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Week 4
Half way point-ish. Everyone is getting fatter and frostier. Jilly looks a bit hungry so I bumped up the 321 ratio a bit to try to meet her demand. I've also noticed she does not dry out as fast as the other so may need to add more ventilation to the tent.

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