Shenzhen quantum board MEIJU LIGHT
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Randomblame
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I would say that this is an accolade to a knight, Sir Steven.
Sammy produce for HLG, a better reputation as growlight producer can one hardly have! The same does Osram only for one single manufacturer, SanLight!
Really guys, you finally arrived the worlds top range!
Well done!!
Peeps, the end of the delivery bottlenecks is in sight ...
As someone in the thread suggested about support from HLG. In my experience in dealing with them to correct an issue it was a weekend wait and then I was plug and play on my way to flowering some of that sticky sticky. I don't know about you but I know for a fact that every other time I've ordered from China unless the parcel was already in my country it took up to 3 months to receive goods, not to mention that DHL wanted some $55 for shipping and HLG had it down to $32 for me. GrowersLights was even cheaper and faster shipping after initial lead time when I ordered another prebuilt QB. I will stay with HLG because they have proven themselves worthy of my hard earned dollars.
fragileassassin
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When your order from china you do it in bulk, you dont buy 2-4 boards, you buy 16 like I did lol. Thats when its a good deal to go straight to a mfg.
and meijiu is legit with the shipping terms you agree to. My order had a 10 day lead time that I was well informed of up front and once it shipped it was at my door in 5 days. That part of why the shipping is so expensive, because they use DHL express and dont send it over on a boat. I paid $200 for shipping and it was still an amazing deal.
What do you think about the Zeus board? Is it maybe original Samsung diodes or is this a chinese copy?
And is it true that i not need heatsink if i run it low? Like 54 or 77 W.
Rocket Soul
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All info from here:
https://www.led-tech.de/en/grow-horticulture-modules
Led-tech got their own led making equipment so i assume theyre legit, not chinese made. Allthough the boards from meijiu are working very well at a fraction of the price.
GrowGlowmj
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Go with another China supplier other than Meijiu. They are horrible with warranty that Invisible Sun stopped using them! Quality is also VERY inconsistent.
https://www.growroom420.com/defective-qb-quantum-board-led-by-rita-shenzhen-meijiu-warranty-refused-2911?sid=c8bc438384d30fd90c85cc7c159db058
https://www.rollitup.org/t/defective-qb-quantum-board-led-by-rita-shenzhen-meijiu-warranty-refused.991010/
https://www.growroom420.com/defective-qb-quantum-board-led-by-rita-shenzhen-meijiu-warranty-refused-2911?sid=c8bc438384d30fd90c85cc7c159db058
https://www.rollitup.org/t/defective-qb-quantum-board-led-by-rita-shenzhen-meijiu-warranty-refused.991010/
JungleSlut
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For all you gents who thing hlg is superior here.is some info that their not as good as.u think
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u/fatigues_ • Dec 30, 2018
HLG V2 White LED lights - GROUP BUY
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fatigues_•Dec 30, 2018
Happy New Year, growers and swappers!
Earlier this past fall, we had a chance to see a grow by “That Hash Guy”. His initial post is here:
/r/nugswap/comments/9ssvl0/here_i_go_flipping_again/
What “That Hash Guy” was using in his tent intrigued me. He had one HLG light, a 260W QB V1 LED (I believe it was V1, it might have been a V2 – the difference I will explain later below). Those lights are remarkable LEDs called “Quantum Boards”. They are different from the typical Blue/Red/Yellow (“Blurple”) lights we so typically see as Quantum Boards are all white light. They are a full spectrum light which emit with good efficiency at a cheap cost. LEDs of that kind were not available until relatively recently and are still relativelyexpensive when compared with Blurple LEDs. But now, they are cheap enough and efficient enough that they can be used to grow weed, cheaply.
Growing under white light is always preferable. The spectrum is full. You can see any signs of nutrient deficiencies clearly – and early – under white light in a way that is quite difficult under a Blurple LED light (or even a yellow HPS). In that sense, it is like growing under a white Ceramic Metal Halide lamp (CMH) and so that’s a HUGE plus for growing under Quantum Boards.
Still, Quantum Boards from HLG are hella expensive. Can we do it cheaper? Well “That Hash Guy” did.
What That Hash Guy ALSO had along with his HLG 260 light was 3 x Chinese Clone Quantum Boards which appeared indistinguishable from the HLG light. And the knock offs were WAY cheaper. And they were in stock, too. What sorcery is this? Let me explain. (This will take some time and space in a number of posts to follow)
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fatigues_•Dec 30, 2018
Quantum LED Lighting Boards
The primary seller of the Quantum Board lighting kits is Horticultural Lighting Group, based in the USA. There is a Canadian reseller as well at https://www.horticulturelightinggroup.ca/ (The Canadian reseller is a commercial grower in B.C. who has a streaming grow webshow if you care to check it out on Youtube and Zoom and see 100+ of these larger LED lights in action.) The thing about Quantum Boards which makes one envious is that:
1) they work very well for growing weed;
2) They run with far less heat than an HPS light, making them easier to cool;
3) they draw comparatively little power, making them FAR cheaper to run;
4) They are, sadly, expensive; and
5) Worse, they are hard to find just to be able to actually buy one. Just going to HLG’s US website reveals:https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/collections/kits
that many of these kits are sold out for WEEKS at a time. And when they come back in stock, they instantly sell out again. For the Canadian distributor, he doesn’t bother with the smaller kits most of the time, he just orders what he uses himself, namely, the HLG 550 V2. These lights sell for $1,049 USD and are sold in Canada for $1,340.00 CDN plus tax and shipping: https://www.horticulturelightinggroup.ca/
Nice light, to be sure, but damn, that’s expensive.
So when That Hash Guy posted about his “Chinese lights” I was intrigued and went down the rabbit hole on these knock off lights. Here is what I found out…
Firstly, the HLG lights are “from China” as well. All the parts are made there; some are merely assembled in the USA. The parts HLG uses are all sourced from manufacturers in China – some of which are the same manufacturers on Alibaba that we can make use of. The reason HLG is out of stock for long stretches at a time is because it chooses slow (and cheaper) shipping methods from China, gets these parts in, bundles them in kits -- and then sells them out almost instantly and uses the proceeds to buy more parts for more lights. It also assembles the kits in lamp form and packages them for sale as assembled lights. The markup pays for the website and the owner’s home, groceries, taxes and employees. So then they order more of them with the money from customers. (It began as an undercapitalized small business; he needs customer money to acquire inventory) Rinse, Wash, Repeat. That's HLG's business model.
Secondly, these “Chinese Knock Off” lights have been adopted by many users on various forums, with that foray beginning in the second half of 2017 and now throughout 2018. There are also a couple of employees of HLG on these same forums and the dissing of “cheap Chinese lights” from HLG employees and their friends lead to an obscuring of the truth: namely, that the so-called “cheap Chinese lights” are largely identical to those sold by HLG. The difference? The price is about one third the price of the light that HLG sells it for. The difference in the parts for V1 lights? Basically, none. The main difference is all mark-up.
There have been some changes in HLG’s products as a result. To compete against the knock-offs, HLG came out with a V2 of their Quantum Boards. Let me explain the differences between these V1 and V2 boards to you.
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u/fatigues_ • Dec 30, 2018
HLG V2 White LED lights - GROUP BUY
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fatigues_•Dec 30, 2018Happy New Year, growers and swappers!
Earlier this past fall, we had a chance to see a grow by “That Hash Guy”. His initial post is here:
/r/nugswap/comments/9ssvl0/here_i_go_flipping_again/
What “That Hash Guy” was using in his tent intrigued me. He had one HLG light, a 260W QB V1 LED (I believe it was V1, it might have been a V2 – the difference I will explain later below). Those lights are remarkable LEDs called “Quantum Boards”. They are different from the typical Blue/Red/Yellow (“Blurple”) lights we so typically see as Quantum Boards are all white light. They are a full spectrum light which emit with good efficiency at a cheap cost. LEDs of that kind were not available until relatively recently and are still relativelyexpensive when compared with Blurple LEDs. But now, they are cheap enough and efficient enough that they can be used to grow weed, cheaply.
Growing under white light is always preferable. The spectrum is full. You can see any signs of nutrient deficiencies clearly – and early – under white light in a way that is quite difficult under a Blurple LED light (or even a yellow HPS). In that sense, it is like growing under a white Ceramic Metal Halide lamp (CMH) and so that’s a HUGE plus for growing under Quantum Boards.
Still, Quantum Boards from HLG are hella expensive. Can we do it cheaper? Well “That Hash Guy” did.
What That Hash Guy ALSO had along with his HLG 260 light was 3 x Chinese Clone Quantum Boards which appeared indistinguishable from the HLG light. And the knock offs were WAY cheaper. And they were in stock, too. What sorcery is this? Let me explain. (This will take some time and space in a number of posts to follow)
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fatigues_•Dec 30, 2018Quantum LED Lighting Boards
The primary seller of the Quantum Board lighting kits is Horticultural Lighting Group, based in the USA. There is a Canadian reseller as well at https://www.horticulturelightinggroup.ca/ (The Canadian reseller is a commercial grower in B.C. who has a streaming grow webshow if you care to check it out on Youtube and Zoom and see 100+ of these larger LED lights in action.) The thing about Quantum Boards which makes one envious is that:
1) they work very well for growing weed;
2) They run with far less heat than an HPS light, making them easier to cool;
3) they draw comparatively little power, making them FAR cheaper to run;
4) They are, sadly, expensive; and
5) Worse, they are hard to find just to be able to actually buy one. Just going to HLG’s US website reveals:https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/collections/kits
that many of these kits are sold out for WEEKS at a time. And when they come back in stock, they instantly sell out again. For the Canadian distributor, he doesn’t bother with the smaller kits most of the time, he just orders what he uses himself, namely, the HLG 550 V2. These lights sell for $1,049 USD and are sold in Canada for $1,340.00 CDN plus tax and shipping: https://www.horticulturelightinggroup.ca/
Nice light, to be sure, but damn, that’s expensive.
So when That Hash Guy posted about his “Chinese lights” I was intrigued and went down the rabbit hole on these knock off lights. Here is what I found out…
Firstly, the HLG lights are “from China” as well. All the parts are made there; some are merely assembled in the USA. The parts HLG uses are all sourced from manufacturers in China – some of which are the same manufacturers on Alibaba that we can make use of. The reason HLG is out of stock for long stretches at a time is because it chooses slow (and cheaper) shipping methods from China, gets these parts in, bundles them in kits -- and then sells them out almost instantly and uses the proceeds to buy more parts for more lights. It also assembles the kits in lamp form and packages them for sale as assembled lights. The markup pays for the website and the owner’s home, groceries, taxes and employees. So then they order more of them with the money from customers. (It began as an undercapitalized small business; he needs customer money to acquire inventory) Rinse, Wash, Repeat. That's HLG's business model.
Secondly, these “Chinese Knock Off” lights have been adopted by many users on various forums, with that foray beginning in the second half of 2017 and now throughout 2018. There are also a couple of employees of HLG on these same forums and the dissing of “cheap Chinese lights” from HLG employees and their friends lead to an obscuring of the truth: namely, that the so-called “cheap Chinese lights” are largely identical to those sold by HLG. The difference? The price is about one third the price of the light that HLG sells it for. The difference in the parts for V1 lights? Basically, none. The main difference is all mark-up.
There have been some changes in HLG’s products as a result. To compete against the knock-offs, HLG came out with a V2 of their Quantum Boards. Let me explain the differences between these V1 and V2 boards to you.
JungleSlut
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Also my dudes. PRINTED CIRCUITRY BOARDS are circuitry printed onto a board. It's not rocket science. And HLG uses the EXACT SAME supplier for these boards as alibaba sellers.For all you gents who thing hlg is superior here.is some info that their not as good as.u think
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u/fatigues_ • Dec 30, 2018
HLG V2 White LED lights - GROUP BUY
1355 Comments
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Happy New Year, growers and swappers!
Earlier this past fall, we had a chance to see a grow by “That Hash Guy”. His initial post is here:
/r/nugswap/comments/9ssvl0/here_i_go_flipping_again/
What “That Hash Guy” was using in his tent intrigued me. He had one HLG light, a 260W QB V1 LED (I believe it was V1, it might have been a V2 – the difference I will explain later below). Those lights are remarkable LEDs called “Quantum Boards”. They are different from the typical Blue/Red/Yellow (“Blurple”) lights we so typically see as Quantum Boards are all white light. They are a full spectrum light which emit with good efficiency at a cheap cost. LEDs of that kind were not available until relatively recently and are still relativelyexpensive when compared with Blurple LEDs. But now, they are cheap enough and efficient enough that they can be used to grow weed, cheaply.
Growing under white light is always preferable. The spectrum is full. You can see any signs of nutrient deficiencies clearly – and early – under white light in a way that is quite difficult under a Blurple LED light (or even a yellow HPS). In that sense, it is like growing under a white Ceramic Metal Halide lamp (CMH) and so that’s a HUGE plus for growing under Quantum Boards.
Still, Quantum Boards from HLG are hella expensive. Can we do it cheaper? Well “That Hash Guy” did.
What That Hash Guy ALSO had along with his HLG 260 light was 3 x Chinese Clone Quantum Boards which appeared indistinguishable from the HLG light. And the knock offs were WAY cheaper. And they were in stock, too. What sorcery is this? Let me explain. (This will take some time and space in a number of posts to follow)
41 more reply
Quantum LED Lighting Boards
The primary seller of the Quantum Board lighting kits is Horticultural Lighting Group, based in the USA. There is a Canadian reseller as well at https://www.horticulturelightinggroup.ca/ (The Canadian reseller is a commercial grower in B.C. who has a streaming grow webshow if you care to check it out on Youtube and Zoom and see 100+ of these larger LED lights in action.) The thing about Quantum Boards which makes one envious is that:
1) they work very well for growing weed;
2) They run with far less heat than an HPS light, making them easier to cool;
3) they draw comparatively little power, making them FAR cheaper to run;
4) They are, sadly, expensive; and
5) Worse, they are hard to find just to be able to actually buy one. Just going to HLG’s US website reveals:https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/collections/kits
that many of these kits are sold out for WEEKS at a time. And when they come back in stock, they instantly sell out again. For the Canadian distributor, he doesn’t bother with the smaller kits most of the time, he just orders what he uses himself, namely, the HLG 550 V2. These lights sell for $1,049 USD and are sold in Canada for $1,340.00 CDN plus tax and shipping: https://www.horticulturelightinggroup.ca/
Nice light, to be sure, but damn, that’s expensive.
So when That Hash Guy posted about his “Chinese lights” I was intrigued and went down the rabbit hole on these knock off lights. Here is what I found out…
Firstly, the HLG lights are “from China” as well. All the parts are made there; some are merely assembled in the USA. The parts HLG uses are all sourced from manufacturers in China – some of which are the same manufacturers on Alibaba that we can make use of. The reason HLG is out of stock for long stretches at a time is because it chooses slow (and cheaper) shipping methods from China, gets these parts in, bundles them in kits -- and then sells them out almost instantly and uses the proceeds to buy more parts for more lights. It also assembles the kits in lamp form and packages them for sale as assembled lights. The markup pays for the website and the owner’s home, groceries, taxes and employees. So then they order more of them with the money from customers. (It began as an undercapitalized small business; he needs customer money to acquire inventory) Rinse, Wash, Repeat. That's HLG's business model.
Secondly, these “Chinese Knock Off” lights have been adopted by many users on various forums, with that foray beginning in the second half of 2017 and now throughout 2018. There are also a couple of employees of HLG on these same forums and the dissing of “cheap Chinese lights” from HLG employees and their friends lead to an obscuring of the truth: namely, that the so-called “cheap Chinese lights” are largely identical to those sold by HLG. The difference? The price is about one third the price of the light that HLG sells it for. The difference in the parts for V1 lights? Basically, none. The main difference is all mark-up.
There have been some changes in HLG’s products as a result. To compete against the knock-offs, HLG came out with a V2 of their Quantum Boards. Let me explain the differences between these V1 and V2 boards to you.
Hlg uses Chinese boards.
They use chinese leds.
Their chinese but manufactured in america.
You can fill a 4x4 section with a 1300cad hlg light
Or you can fill a 12x4 section with 3x Chinese alibaba lights
For the same amount if money
You really gonna sit here and puff your chest out.about top bin and low bin? Give me a break your plants could care less about a chip that's 3% more efficient. Your electricity bill might. But that's it
Par and ppfd grows plants and how much usuable light they get
Not top bin or low bin diodes.
3 low bin chinese
1 high bin hlg
Same price but I get more par in the end with chinese even if their shittier lights because of pricing and can buy more
That right there speaks volumes
https://www.gardenmyths.com/led-grow-lights-color-spectrum/
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JungleSlut
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I just bought this guy from king brite. Not only did I not have to explain a 1400 dollar light to my wife.
At 550 bucks even if it shits the bed I can buy 2 more and still have more coverage and yeild tha i'd get with my ONE super expensive hlg
I'm sure hlg is good dude.
But not good enough to pay 1000 bucks more for their light. If I was a rich kid with a trust fund yeah maybe.
Budzbuddha
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For those wondering about HLG quality ... you get what you pay for.
What you pay for is quality CONSISTENT components ... not substitutes.
Board matching .... incredible after sale customer service ..... maker support ....
New offerings ..... USA made .... NO BULLSHIT.
They have let me run testers and THOSE also run daily. They constantly refine and improve ... they look at forums such as these for user input. See if Taiwan Tammy does shit like that.
The Alibaba train is like the McDonald’s of led boards .... fast out the door fluff.
There are a few boards pulling its weight but it’s a crap shoot on what you get.
I personally can state I purchased and continually run ( original S5 boards ) daily for 4 years ( currently )
in perpetual grows ..... non stop.
I never could get that kind of reliability in other boards or components. I run VEG and Flower tents on 18\6 ( autos ) and 12/12 regulars .... All day Every day.
That nug swap is bullshit.
What you pay for is quality CONSISTENT components ... not substitutes.
Board matching .... incredible after sale customer service ..... maker support ....
New offerings ..... USA made .... NO BULLSHIT.
They have let me run testers and THOSE also run daily. They constantly refine and improve ... they look at forums such as these for user input. See if Taiwan Tammy does shit like that.
The Alibaba train is like the McDonald’s of led boards .... fast out the door fluff.
There are a few boards pulling its weight but it’s a crap shoot on what you get.
I personally can state I purchased and continually run ( original S5 boards ) daily for 4 years ( currently )
in perpetual grows ..... non stop.
I never could get that kind of reliability in other boards or components. I run VEG and Flower tents on 18\6 ( autos ) and 12/12 regulars .... All day Every day.
That nug swap is bullshit.
JungleSlut
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Whst u get is chinese parts manufactured in america. Dont get it twisted. Hlg buys their pcb off the same company as baba suppliers. . This is fact.
If your happy paying 1300cad for an hlg light. All the power to you.
If someones happy paying 550cad for the same light but 5% less efficient. Good for them.
Budzbuddha
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No words needed
JungleSlut
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Hlg uses chinese parts and assembles them in america. No pictures needed
If that picture was a Ford next to a lincoln That would be a better comparison of kingbrite to hlg
Budzbuddha
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You don’t know what the fuck you talking about .... Samsung is a Korean company and works with HLG.
I don’t pay 1300 cad or whatever chicken bone and pebble currency you are using.
Enjoy your flaming won ton and untwist YOUR panty liner. @Stephenj37826 and @robincnn will more than happy to EDUCATE you on the manufacturing of their products.
JungleSlut
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Oh no did we hurt her feelings
Fan girls man. So fucking funny
I've seen the hlg guys get all worked up and cranky and throw fits like you over their lights and Chinese lights.
Hilarious
This idiot is am AMERICAN QUANTUM BOARD light manufacture as well.
He tried to put Chinese baba lights on blast as well
Said you dont buy a knockoff chinese board because samsung lm301h only come in 6500k kelvin.
One hundred percent false they come in all colors from 2700k up to 6500k
He tried to hard to sell his own product and discredit everyone else..
Same as HLG man
Peddle that bullshit somewhere else.
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Budzbuddha
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Feelings not hurt for a “ jungle slut “ .... self explanatory lol.
Cutting and pasting internet fodder seems to be your strong suit. To me I really don’t give two flying fucks on your spectacular penny pinching. Just stop spreading false info that all clone boards are the same thing. Many are not , some ship 3030 leds. So try again.
Many perform .... many don’t. And that’s all anyone needs to know.
Cutting and pasting internet fodder seems to be your strong suit. To me I really don’t give two flying fucks on your spectacular penny pinching. Just stop spreading false info that all clone boards are the same thing. Many are not , some ship 3030 leds. So try again.
Many perform .... many don’t. And that’s all anyone needs to know.
JungleSlut
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I never once said all clone boards the same. I said HLG uses the same suppliers as some people on baba.
Samsung ain't gonna give only their best shit to ONE AMERICAN company. How fucking high are you right now stud
Huh!?!?!?!?!??!?!
Samsung diodes..are samsung diodes. Some are top bin. Some are middle. Some are bottom
SAMSUNG WORKS WITH EVERYBODY.
That's great they made HLG their "own" board. But to think THAT ONE OF THE BIGGEST KOREAN COMPANY IN THE WORLD PICKED HLG AS THE ONLY COMPANY TO PROVIDE WITH THE BEST SHIT is just fucking mental.
PCB. Printed circuitry boards are printed using a machine.
It's like a cnc machine. Anyone can fucking buy one. And print the exact same fucking boards using the exact same fucking blueprint.
Your HLG company. Dont have access to the most quality shit when noone else does. If they were so lit they would be so rich and have so much money and people working for them they would never run out of stock. And they wouldnt be selling lights for such high prices. Their lights are coming down in price because people are growing with chinese boards now and they know it.
I used to hustle. I know people. I know human nature. I know business.
HLG is not your friendly neighborhood spiderman.
Their businessmen. Hustlers. Like all american capitalists.
-They need to make a product that makes the money.
-They need to have a business motto that sells lights (we were first, we have quality, were american made, NO american assembled but chinese equipment is not american made)
-Of course their warranties are better than the chinese companies, they can afford to provide good warrantys because they charge 3 to 4 times more than the chinese for their product to begin with
PEOPLE KNOW THIS thats why all these american companies doing QBs throw so many fucking tantrums when people call em out on it
SAMSUNG OF ALL PEOPLZ WOULD NOT pick a small american company like HLG to supply with only their best and greatest, and leave all these rich ass millionaire chinese companies in the dust to eat their scraps..
Like actually think about what your trying to sell here. Noones buying it man
6-10% moreefficiency? at the cost of THREE times more. Is hardly a fucking selling point.
HLG s market is people with money to burn, people who like namebrand shit and professional growers who have EVERYTHING SO FUCKING DIALED IN that 6-8% efficiency matters..
Foe the other 75% percent of growers who still battle environment, watering issues and everything else with less than perfect growing variables, those high price tag high efficiency lights dont mean dick.
Im not trying to say HLG isnt the business when it comes to quantums. Their product is obviously high quality. And noone can take that away from them and what they've done for their business.
I will give them that
But the little bit of quality and little bit more efficiency is not worth what they charge.
You want to spend hard earned dollars busting a nut inside a 5000 dollar hooker you go right ahead.
I'd rather grab a 50 cent condom 500 dollar hooker and call it a day.
Same result. Same guilt. Less money spent.
More money to spend on growing dope
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JungleSlut
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Shipping from kingbrite mainland china to canada took 7 days.
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