Shes sad and idk why

LLanier

LLanier

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Hi again,

So this girl is giving me problems . I fed them last week and she drooped.. I fed her plain water ph to 6.5, still no improvement.

I havent watered in 3 days to let it dry out for possible overwatering . Nothing has changed .

I dont knowbwhat else to do. Possible nitrogen toxicity maybe ? Tent stay around 77 during the day and drops to 69 at night.

I have inline fan running and small fan blowing . Across the tops . I've been giving them 2 cups of water every 3 to 4 days, they live in 3 gal fabric pots . The other ones ( different strains) are not doing this .

They are in fox farm ocean and happy frog blend. I waited 9 weeks before I tried to feed because i assumed they had used all the nutrients.

I gave them 70 percent of the recommended feed however in thinking tmi shouldn't have

Just worried and need some help here
 

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Snoopy808

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From your information, you have not fed any thing extra. All the nutrition has come from your soil mix. Then the first feed, this particular plant appears like its N+ toxicity....very unlikely. Other signs of N+ toxicity would have come before you got the droop.

But the event was a sudden overall droopy plant.

This reminds me of outdoors plants that get the droop or "wilt ". Sometimes its critters in the soil. Fungus gnats, thrips psyllids or root knot nematodes even ants too. Worth it to take a look.
More worse is fusarium or verticillium wilt. There's some remedies but ive not seen one thats 100% success. When ive got the wilt i dry em out then give 1/2 worm cast teas and give them some 'Regalia' till they or if they recover.
 
LLanier

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She was fine untill I fed her . Had less than a table spoon of unsulphered organic molases to feed the microbes . Could the molases messed her up ?
 
Snoopy808

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Hmmm. You did mix the molasses in water correct?
If applied directly it might cause some burn but im not sure. Burn more likely than droop. One tablespoon molasses would mix 1/2 to one gallon in water. It is acidic but usually not a whole lot. Maybe but not likely.
Foliar treatments might get it recovering.
no critters in the soil. Small flies near plants?

Corso says under watered. Maybe, shouldnt make it worse to do a heavy watering to flush and or fully hydrate it.
2 cups of water isnt really much water....but it looks more droopy than wilty.
If no response at least the media is fully moist for a different treatment.

IMO I see phosphorus deficiency which goes hand in hand with cal mag needs as well. But should a been corrected with your fertilizer. Unless needing more cal-mag, dolomite lime works well and has immediate results.
 
Snoopy808

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Whats your waters pH. You mentioned 6.5 was that water or the reading after you mixed your nutrients?
 
LLanier

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Snoopy808 said:
Hmmm. You did mix the molasses in water correct?
If applied directly it might cause some burn but im not sure. Burn more likely than droop. One tablespoon molasses would mix 1/2 to one gallon in water. It is acidic but usually not a whole lot. Maybe but not likely.
Foliar treatments might get it recovering.
no critters in the soil. Small flies near plants?

Corso says under watered. Maybe, shouldnt make it worse to do a heavy watering to flush and or fully hydrate it.
2 cups of water isnt really much water....but it looks more droopy than wilty.
If no response at least the media is fully moist for a different treatment.

IMO I see phosphorus deficiency which goes hand in hand with cal mag needs as well. But should a been corrected with your fertilizer. Unless needing more cal-mag, dolomite lime works well and has immediate results.
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Yeah I was thinking flush, I'm thinking using a while gallon of ph water through it . Another thought of mine is since the top soil is drying out, maybe when I water it isnt getting down to all the roots and might be running out the side if the pot. They are smart pots
 
madvillian420

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LLanier said:
Yeah I was thinking flush, I'm thinking using a while gallon of ph water through it . Another thought of mine is since the top soil is drying out, maybe when I water it isnt getting down to all the roots and might be running out the side if the pot. They are smart pots
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hows your humidity? mine is super low so i use plastic pots, they retain the moisture better in low %RH. Id give her 1/4 gallon of plain water and see what happens. Ive damn near killed plants from underwatering to the point that every branch was limp and droopy and theyve bounced back.
 
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LLanier

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madvillian420 said:
hows your humidity? mine is super low so i use plastic pots, they retain the moisture better in low %RH. Id give her a half gallon of plain water and see what happens. Ive damn near killed plants from underwatering to the point that every branch was limp and droopy and theyve bounced back.
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My humidity sucks. 25-32% average . I've tried everything to raise it to 40-60 and cant unless I shut the inline fan off
 
ronintank

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i had a droopy plant it was an auto. i had 3 of the same strain and only 1 drooping. i had my lights set to run 20 hours on 4 off..
in the same tent i have 2 photos that were getting too big and i needed to start flower. i switched the lights to 12/12 and the droopy plant has turned back to normal no droop. I really don't know what the plants problem was but at 12/12 its doing great and getting close to harvest.
picks same plant, second pic a month later
 

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LLanier

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I'm also not going to water today like I had planned because the other 3 are fine and this one hasent changed at all so I'll wait. Then imma slowly water so that all the soil gets wet. I have a feeling the top soil is drying out to fast so when I water, its dosent soak through it runs off out the sides
 
LLanier

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ronintank said:
i had a droopy plant it was an auto. i had 3 of the same strain and only 1 drooping. i had my lights set to run 20 hours on 4 off..
in the same tent i have 2 photos that were getting too big and i needed to start flower. i switched the lights to 12/12 and the droopy plant has turned back to normal no droop. I really don't know what the plants problem was but at 12/12 its doing great and getting close to harvest.
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I was planning on doing that soon anyway, I think these are photo seeds, just random seeds I found .
 
madvillian420

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so today is day 4 of no water? and you gave 2 cups? Definitely under watered man, especially with super low humidity. you should have roughly 10% runoff to the point theres a slight puddle in whatever tray you (hopefully) have below the smart pot. that way even if it escapes out the sides it will be absorbed by the bottom roots/soil. They will literally drink it like a straw, my runoff disappears within 30m. What size smart pot is that?
 
LLanier

LLanier

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madvillian420 said:
so today is day 4 of no water? and you gave 2 cups? Definitely under watered man, especially with super low humidity. you should have roughly 10% runoff to the point theres a slight puddle in whatever tray you (hopefully) have below the smart pot. that way even if it escapes out the sides it will be absorbed by the bottom roots/soil. They will literally drink it like a straw, my runoff disappears within 30m. What size smart pot is that?
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3 gal pot, yes there is a tray under them.

She was drooping before I watered last and it never improved
 
MrToad69

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Stuff a moisture probe in the soil...
Someone mentioned under watered...I'm thinking over-watered is just as likely...(pretty sure your problem is that straight forward..either too much or too little water..you can't tell simply from looking at top if soil)

Too much or too little water will choke off roots

Cheers
Toad
 
LLanier

LLanier

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MrToad69 said:
Stuff a moisture probe in the soil...
Someone mentioned under watered...I'm thinking over-watered is just as likely...(pretty sure your problem is that straight forward..either too much or too little water..you can't tell simply from looking at top if soil)

Too much or too little water will choke off roots

Cheers
Toad
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I have a moisture and ph combo probe but havent used it because I dont want to damage roots .
 
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