Should I Add Hydroguard Every Top Off?

What amounts of micro/bloom do I use in lucas formula? Is it 4ml Micro and 8ml bloom on VEG, then 8ML Micro, and 16m Bloom for Flowering? Also, I have Flouricious Plus and Diamond Nector and Liquid Koolbloom, How would I encourpoourate Diamond nector and flouricious plus into VEG stage? Also, How would I include all during FLOWER, while using Lucas formula? thank you
 
bryan100030 said:
What amounts of micro/bloom do I use in lucas formula? Is it 4ml Micro and 8ml bloom on VEG, then 8ML Micro, and 16m Bloom for Flowering? Also, I have Flouricious Plus and Diamond Nector and Liquid Koolbloom, How would I encourpoourate Diamond nector and flouricious plus into VEG stage? Also, How would I include all during FLOWER, while using Lucas formula? thank you
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Lucas is 8 micro/16 bloom for both veg and bloom (if your plants can handle that strong). you can use any 1:2 ratio depending on how strong you want your EC. i used at 4/8 and my EC was roughly 1.0

that's the nice thing about Lucas, you don't need any additives. I do add Silica but that's mainly for most of veg and some of bloom
 
Jypsy Dog said:
I'm using 1/4 tsp. Per 3 gal. refills on 5ga. DWC. Have a Cucumber DWC on the patio. Had them All Summer. I'm in AZ. 110 degrees. NO CHILLER. My roots are thriving. If anyone stumbles across Expiration, SHARE! Hydroguard is manufactured 5 miles from my house. It'sTan in color. I use it at the 1/4 tsp because it's the easiest way to measure.
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So you're using 1/4 tsp in 3 gallons, and the guy on amazon is using 1 drop for 4 gallons. lol looks like there is quite a bit of forgiveness in how much one uses of the product.
 
BadlyDrawnBoy said:
So you're using 1/4 tsp in 3 gallons, and the guy on amazon is using 1 drop for 4 gallons. lol looks like there is quite a bit of forgiveness in how much one uses of the product.
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That is the good thing about beneficials, you can't add to much, don't worry about buildup. I found that I was always second guessing the amount of sterilizing agents. Once I started running chilled water it all became unneeded.
 
BadlyDrawnBoy said:
So you're using 1/4 tsp in 3 gallons, and the guy on amazon is using 1 drop for 4 gallons. lol looks like there is quite a bit of forgiveness in how much one uses of the product.
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Like I said, can't find an expiration. I figure at 1/4 tsp, I can use the bottle up with in a year.
 
bryan100030 said:
What amounts of micro/bloom do I use in lucas formula? Is it 4ml Micro and 8ml bloom on VEG, then 8ML Micro, and 16m Bloom for Flowering? Also, I have Flouricious Plus and Diamond Nector and Liquid Koolbloom, How would I encourpoourate Diamond nector and flouricious plus into VEG stage? Also, How would I include all during FLOWER, while using Lucas formula? thank you
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I'm using MaxiBloom in Lucas. 7g/gal. As simple as it gets.
 
Jypsy Dog said:
Like I said, can't find an expiration. I figure at 1/4 tsp, I can use the bottle up with in a year.
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So every time you top off the res you are adding more bennies back in? Maybe since it is so concentrated, I could add just once a week at a higher dose and refill plain water thereafter.
 
BadlyDrawnBoy said:
So every time you top off the res you are adding more bennies back in? Maybe since it is so concentrated, I could add just once a week at a higher dose and refill plain water thereafter.
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I mix a 5 gal. bucket for top off. In that I mix in Silica @ 2ml/gal- Call/mag @ 5ml/gal. And 1/2tsp of AG. And Mammoth P if it's in flower. Get the pH down to around 6 and adjust to 5.8 as I add. pH likes to drift back up as it sets. I know Silica needs to be added. And since I use synthetics, I just add the AD also.
 
BadlyDrawnBoy said:
well i'm only growing 2 plants and it's my first grow. i have an 80% indica and an 80% sativa, and the differences in their feeding preference is drastic, so one res for these two plants probably wouldn't be ideal. i don't plan on growing more than 2 plants at a time in the upcoming future, so for me, 2 single dwc buckets for 2 very differently designed cannabis plants, works well. and a chiller would be nice, but i'm trying to keep things simple and cut down on costs, both for equipment and electricity. My basement keeps a pretty cool temp year around, so it isn't something high priority for me. The hg is more precautionary, at least until i know for sure, through practice and experience, whether i could get by without it.
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Check your water temps 75 is how hot my water was when I used HG... it did not work at all. Dude if your doing dwc with ORGANICS then good luck. I live in Cali and the heat is too much for my grow... root rot is terrible . So I had to go synthetics with a chiller & H202 for safe measures and extra oxygen (sterile all the way). Hydroguard alone is like a Speed bump it won't fix the actual problem just delay it... the bacteria in hydroguard will multiply on its own and feed off your root system. if your adding RO then no but if TAP water then yes add more hydroguard a few hours later because tap water usually has some sort of chlorine in it and that can possibly kill some if not all your bennies.
 
ARMY_OF_ONE_92Y said:
Check your water temps 75 is how hot my water was when I used HG... it did not work at all. Dude if your doing dwc with ORGANICS then good luck. I live in Cali and the heat is too much for my grow... root rot is terrible . So I had to go synthetics with a chiller & H202 for safe measures and extra oxygen (sterile all the way). Hydroguard alone is like a Speed bump it won't fix the actual problem just delay it... the bacteria in hydroguard will multiply on its own and feed off your root system. if your adding RO then no but if TAP water then yes add more hydroguard a few hours later because tap water usually has some sort of chlorine in it and that can possibly kill some if not all your bennies.
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my water temps so far, which have been during the hottest part of the year, are a consistent average of 72-73 degrees. higher than ideal, but the roots are just white white white, they look great so far. when you say organics, what brand/nute are you referring to? i would like to use more organic feeding options in the future. i'm really careful about what chemicals and substances i put on and in my body, and i feel like the AN ph perfect stuff, which im using on this first grow, is heavily synthetic, and honestly i dont know what the hell is in it and it scares me a bit lol.

but if using organics leads to a higher chance of root issues with warmer water, well that is something i'll definitely need to consider.

i'm using tap, but it is well water. plants seem to be doing well with it. i use it straight from the well, before it hits the water softener.
 
There are many brands with organic and synthetic Lines. General hydroponics, fox farms, Dutch master, advanced nutrients... etc

Usually organics are derived from bat guano, earthworm castings, sea bird shit, fish etc ... and it makes your system dirty and can sometimes stain your roots

Synthetics are mainly phosphates, nitrates & sulfates... cleaner and sterile
Plus it's easier to distinguish root problems if need be since the water color won't change much


To be honest bro it's all about preferences.
Just keep it simple and don't over spend.
 
BadlyDrawnBoy said:
well i'm only growing 2 plants and it's my first grow. i have an 80% indica and an 80% sativa, and the differences in their feeding preference is drastic, so one res for these two plants probably wouldn't be ideal. i don't plan on growing more than 2 plants at a time in the upcoming future, so for me, 2 single dwc buckets for 2 very differently designed cannabis plants, works well. and a chiller would be nice, but i'm trying to keep things simple and cut down on costs, both for equipment and electricity. My basement keeps a pretty cool temp year around, so it isn't something high priority for me. The hg is more precautionary, at least until i know for sure, through practice and experience, whether i could get by without it.
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1st off, your going to screw yourself by growing such drastically different strains. One grows very tall and takes a LONG time to mature (Sativa), and the other is short and is relatively quick to finish (Indica). If you are using 1 light, you will have a problem. Next time grow the same strain, much easier.
Make sure you have a good airstone in you bucket, whereas that will eliminate your bacteria (root rot) problem, and provide all the air needed for optimal root health. You do not need all that HG, add once a month, if at all.
Just bubble the fuck out of your roots.
Good luck
 
rkymtnman said:
i think airwalker is wrong about that too. if he was right, hardly anybody would get root rot.

so what is your mix rate? is it really one drop per gallon?? i might buy a bottle and give it a shot. i was debating about using enzymes or chlorine this run in my waterfarms. maybe give southern ag a run.
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If you use a Waterfarm system, which basically adds O2 to your roots all the time, you don't want chlorine added to your res. Enzymes are needed to establish a colony, but once established, no need to add more.
I have used a modified Waterfarm system for years (recirculating with a 30 gal res), and have never had root issues.
 
Jimdamick said:
1st off, your going to screw yourself by growing such drastically different strains. One grows very tall and takes a LONG time to mature (Sativa), and the other is short and is relatively quick to finish (Indica). If you are using 1 light, you will have a problem. Next time grow the same strain, much easier.
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Nah, I've got one 300w led per plant. The sativa will take a few extra weeks to finish, but that's fine by me. Actually, this grow, the indica is taller...the sativa main stem was warped and mutated right from germination. it grew downwards in the rapid rooter. then 5 days later came back out, but the main stem was burried in the rapid rooter. interesting to see. so the plant is much shorter and seems to have stopped growing upwards for the most part already. she is beginning to flower nicely with many bud spots.

I'll always grow two strains at a time. I like having two extreme high dynamics to smoke

I do want to upgrade the air pump i have for later grows. I have two cheaper style pumps, 4 tubes/airstones total, 2 in each bucket. it's enough but isn't nearly as strong/bubble making as i'd like to see.
 
Jimdamick said:
1st off, your going to screw yourself by growing such drastically different strains. One grows very tall and takes a LONG time to mature (Sativa), and the other is short and is relatively quick to finish (Indica). If you are using 1 light, you will have a problem. Next time grow the same strain, much easier.
Make sure you have a good airstone in you bucket, whereas that will eliminate your bacteria (root rot) problem, and provide all the air needed for optimal root health. You do not need all that HG, add once a month, if at all.
Just bubble the fuck out of your roots.
Good luck
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Actually if it's your first grow it might be tricky, and by now I'm sure you figured it out, but for others who may run across this post I'll add this.
Read, read, and read! It's not hard to grow different strains if you prepare for it, and it can be overcome if just a simple mistake.
Training plants can work wonders, be it by simply topping, or using LST ( Light stress training ) you can keep a tall plant shorter.
For different flowering times, you can flip the plants with longer flower times first, keeping in mind you'll need a separate area for the plants still in veg....or simply stagger your harvest if you only use one set up..
With that said, as the other poster said, it is recommended for beginners to start with one strain....hope this helps ✌
 
BadlyDrawnBoy said:
well i use that amount during the initial res preparation/every time i completely change out the water. but whether i should be adding it also on every gallon i add back to the res in between complete res changes, that i do not know.
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BadlyDrawnBoy said:
So every time you top off the res you are adding more bennies back in? Maybe since it is so concentrated, I could add just once a week at a higher dose and refill plain water thereafter.
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Most will drown and die so more at once is probably a waste. I would say it isnt necessary to add with every top up. A little with water changes or a little once a week and you should be good.
 
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