Bauks
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Well where is the light Holy fuck Jesus Christ of cannabis itself ? Huh where is it you don't have anything your just parroting your own nonsense just to hear yourself type lol
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Should i cut my fan leaves?
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Bauks
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hey I know where there's a million dollars what to know where it is?
Japanfreak
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If you had bothered to read this thread you would have seen more than a few growers tell you about their experience cutting off the fan leafs but I understand you don't have to....because you have faith in other people. Don't get pissed at me that you put your faith in fools.
Bauks
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Lots of people believe in a god too, real real bad ...It doesn't mean He's real. The world is filled with hearsay and testimony Most of it is bullshit ...some trimming may not harm your plants but I doubt it's beneficial in any way. I have removed leaves as most people growing for a year now would have it's not like my plant jumps into overdrive mode
I just wondered if there was indeed some major consensus amongst the majority of growers that pulling a shit ton of leaves off your plant is a good thing for it's bud production As it's seems pretty made up bad advice to me ?
I'm not pissed but you seem easy to hate maybe just an insecure person I get it
Japanfreak
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Very clever. I love how you people change the subject when you're faced with the reality that you might not know what the fuck you're talking about. Unlike god the growers in this thread can touch their buds and weigh them. They aren't putting their faith in anybody else but themselves. Now do you really want to continue talking about something you haven't had the balls to try yourself? How about talking about sex. You've heard it's really fun right?
Bauks
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I put my Faith In the general consensus No one single "fool" How bout we hold a vote?
Japanfreak
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Oh yeah because asking a bunch of people who have never done something their opinions about it so informative. Why not just ask the people who have tried it....oh yeah we did...they love it. lol
Bauks
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Well I'll Try It then In My Every Week System As If I Fuck Up Another Harvest Is Just a week away I'll Do Side By Side A couple times and report then In video Format It should only take a month or 2 to get a bunch or comparisons
https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/359874-harvest-every-week-slh-dwc.html
If you notice in my week 21 Video My Plant is growing fine with no fan leaves but this was due to a heavy PH flux that went unattended to long
Japanfreak
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That's awesome. Nice to see a guy not afraid of learning first hand. If you look up "defoliation marijuana" there are guides out there that explain the various ways people do it to have the best runs. There are different points in the grow they recommend doing it if you really want to test it. I didn't follow any of their advice because I just wanted to first prove what would happen if I cut all my fans off and found that I got the same yield so my yield wasn't improved but it wasn't hurt either. Some people report lower yields though.
GodSlave
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I don't believe he ever said that pulling all your leaves was the best thing to do. He did, however, mention that he knows people who do, and have varying results. He then suggested doing your own study to see what happens, what's wrong with a good 'ol fashion scientific experiment? That's when all hell broke loose.Lots of people believe in a god too, real real bad ...It doesn't mean He's real. The world is filled with hearsay and testimony Most of it is bullshit ...some trimming may not harm your plants but I doubt it's beneficial in any way. I have removed leaves as most people growing for a year now would have it's not like my plant jumps into overdrive mode
I just wondered if there was indeed some major consensus amongst the majority of growers that pulling a shit ton of leaves off your plant is a good thing for it's bud production As it's seems pretty made up bad advice to me ?
I'm not pissed but you seem easy to hate maybe just an insecure person I get it
But anyways, I said this before, but I'll say it again because this thread has gone so far off course it's ridiculous, lets come back to the real reason for the post...
I for one pull any leaf that is in the way of a new shoot. Growing SCROG means you are aiming for a specific outcome, and if it means losing some leaves, even just a half a leaf, then you do it to get light to where you need it. I have plenty of fans left, they are the ones that are out of the way. Sometimes I even just tuck them under, as another grower on this thread suggested. So, what I believe Japan's real jest was (correct me if I'm wrong Japan) that depending on YOUR circumstance, it may be beneficial to pull some leaves. It's all about YOUR circumstance, which is WHY you would need some type of trial and error instead of merely relying on others suggestions. I never don't go to a movie because someone said it was bad or good, I quite often see movies that are reviewed badly. Reason? Because I want to find out for myself, there are plenty of movies I think are good, that you would think are bad, and vice versa.
So anyways, I'm not on this board to cause fights, I just want to learn new information, and share what I have experienced. Is my way right for you? Maybe, I don't know. Is your way right for me? Could be, I don't know. That is why sharing of info is so important.
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Bauks
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There is good reason to want to believe that If a plant could grow just as good With Far Less Leaves That you Could Pack More Plant into a tighter Space and Not sacrifice Quantity(I could Have Saved Some Seriously Shaded Plants From My Too-big Mother Plant In the tent If I had Been Willing to Prune the hell out of her) . I personally believe this to Be Bat-shit-craziness But I will indeed Give it a go. I have seen the range Of sizes In My plants But I think that picking the leaves off of any of these sized plants should or should not show a significant difference. I just have to say If this kills off My Plants I'm going to direct my subscribers Hate mail towards you lolz
I'll do some reading first tho
Japanfreak
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Like everybody else in this thread I believed for years that removing leafs would reduce yields till I did a test. Since then I've been keeping a more open mind about everything growing.
Brick Top
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The only thing that is wrong with that is a plant does not change certain natural functions due to differing circumstances. It is not like in one grow room if a leaf or leaves are removed the plant(s) will 'think,' ok, I've lost healthy leaves that I now need to replace but in a different grow room the plant won't be 'concerned' about it.
It is not like in one grow room if leaves there will be a release of hormones but in another grow room there won't be any just because the circumstances are different.
Believing that to be the case would be like believing that under certain circumstances water that is not under pressure, like in pipes, will not flow downhill and instead flow uphill.
Matt Rize
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It's open statements and terms like 'defoliation' that cause all the bickering. Defoliation is just a fancy word for pulling off some lower leaves. All garden plants benefit from limited amounts of this, depends on many factors. Then this very basic and age old wisdom gets carried away by bored stoners who like to mess with their girls, and folks start making extreme claims on one side or another.
I've grown plants from seed that were ripe, and still had every single leaf green including the cotelydons! Huge yields. I've defoliated the crap out of some plants. Huge yields. It all works out about the same if you give them what they need. For defoliation depends on factors like: size of plants vs size of bulb, plants per light, genetics (BIG TIME factor), plant size vs pot size, watering methods, reflector type, timing (at what part of the life cycle you defol) ect ect.
Japanfreak
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Brick why are you talking again about something you don't do? Just stick to the things you do do.
Is bricktop wrong in what he says, or are you just the dick that that REAL says you are. Why don't you just make a meaningful post and stop sniping.
wanabe
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i personally dont cut because the leaves make bud buds exposed to light without shade lose thc i also leave in dark for 3 days before harvest
and i also dont cut pop corn nugs people say they cut them because they dont get light but they dont need it out of my outdoor grow last year i got 4 oz out of just popcorn i had 4 plants
and i also dont cut pop corn nugs people say they cut them because they dont get light but they dont need it out of my outdoor grow last year i got 4 oz out of just popcorn i had 4 plants
Japanfreak
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lol, I did Rize, same experience here even though I've only tried it a few times.
REALSTYLES
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yep I'm a retard. I'm just a troll you got me and I don't know a thing about growing and I give advice on stuff I've never done.... you are saying you've been growing for 10 years but you don't know about sweet come on man stop frontin, you don't have to lie to kick it.You are a complete retard. I DIDN'T know about using fluros, that's WHY I asked, DUH! OK, I'll spell it out for you... As mentioned, I used to grow big. With a logical mind, you would come to the conclusion I'm not talking about fluorescent light, no? So yeah, I've tried many different types of CO2 injection over the years. Many different types of home brews, different delivery methods, etc. Once I tried tank CO2, there was no going back. But now, my situation is that I must grow smaller and stealthy. I have decided to use fluros in my grow, and thus needed advice on whether or not CO2 was a waste. I knew all along with a sealed environment I would have to inject either way, but what I did not know was whether using it in quantities of 1500 ppm was going to do any good.
Did you get it? I hope so, because I'm not saying it again, and I didn't want to have to type all this crap out in the first place.
You say Japanfreak is a troll, but you sir, are the closest to being a troll of anyone on this board.
You do realize all this fighting for 30+ pages is because he suggested doing a scientific experiment and try pulling leaves on one plant and not another. And then you have drawn this out, being a complete ass, putting words in his mouth, etc, etc, blah blah blah...
He may have done something at another site, and got banned, but that is none of my concern. Maybe he learned his lesson, huh? What I AM concerned with is, how he has acted here, and I have seen him do nothing wrong.
So, whatever dude, I don't care in the least about anything you say. You sound like Charlie Brown's teacher to me...
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