should I flip to flower or wait a bit

323cheezy

323cheezy

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Mines isn’t really a tent per say... it’s a frame and panda film constantly moving size... but around 3x3x5
 
323cheezy

323cheezy

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It’s good not great ... requires a seasoned grower tho ... canopy and spacing have to be almost perfect fo achieve top shelf but very possibl

I have a grow going called purple sprite grow I use a supplemental blurple
 
Wattzzup

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spek9 said:
I veg for eight weeks and flower for 10+ in three gallon pots. I check the root ball of every plant after harvest, just to monitor health. I've never come close to the point where I felt I needed to up size my pots. (400W MH for veg, 1000W HPS for flower). I'm in peat though, but that shouldn't make much different I wouldn't think.
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You max at 3 gallon?
 
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Buddernugs said:
Strait coco or is their perlite in their?
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I use primarily Sunshine #4 peat based medium, which already has Perlite in it. I used to mix in extra Perlite, but stopped that practice as I was having to water more often for no good reason. I've never grown in coco myself. I've got a couple bricks of it though, and am going to run a couple plants in it as a side-by-side with my normal medium for new nutrients I'm switching to before I use it on all of my production plants.
 
DrKiz

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Wattzzup said:
I’m going to start doing phenos next batch of seeds. I thought everyone maxed out at 5. I need to do more research.
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I max out at 2 gallon. I don’t even wonder if four plants will give me at least a lb in a 4 x 4.
 
323cheezy

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I find I like to use 5 gals leave one gallon empty... so really like 4 .... seems like it’s easier to feed less frequently and prevents overnuting.. my one and a half gals do well tooo they just won’t produce as much bud.
 
DrKiz

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Buddernugs said:
So a qp per plant? That’s nuts man how long do you veg for and what kinda training do you do?
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I go about 5 weeks from seed to flip. It kinda varies how busy I am and how fast the plants root.

I’m not ever in a rush, and I really focus on getting the pots root bound before potting up.

I don’t pay much attention to upstairs as I cut my plants all back anyways at week 3. I want to get roots, not leafs. I top using uncle Bens method. Just above 2nd true node to get four mains on each plant.

I’m basically holding back vertical growth during vege so I can root up.

DTW multi feed coco’s RULE is small pots, root bound from the core outwards, and multi feed often. Never let your pots dry. Put layer of hydroton on top of coco to keep out gnats. Feed often. More the better. I do 9 x day in flower.

In coco multifeed you actually want to root bound your plants. Unlike soil.

Once she hits the two gallon. (Solo to one gallon to 2 gallon) you wait a week and flip.

For training I semi scrog, bend, twist cut and bend the canopy as even and full as possible. Fill the canopy with tops.

I suggest you go to ICMAG and read the two stickies in the coco forum. The DTW one and the Tree’s one.

They are both 100 plus pages. But if you read them you’ll be years ahead of the game.

Their systems are 1lb per 4x4 easy.

I use megacrop instead of Lucas formula, etc. At 1-1.2 EC veg through flower. KISS method.
 
DrKiz

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DrKiz said:
If you multifeed to run off they’ll do better. And even in that 1.5 gallon you’ll sq
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323cheezy said:
I find I like to use 5 gals leave one gallon empty... so really like 4 .... seems like it’s easier to feed less frequently and prevents overnuting.. my one and a half gals do well tooo they just won’t produce as much bud.
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If you multifeed to run off they’ll do better. And even in that 1.5 gallon you’ll squeeze a qp.

Read those threads. They’ll blow your mind. Treat coco like hydro, not soil.

Feed them more to run off. You’ll get better results and better yield. How do you think guys get huge buds in a solo cup contest grow?
 
Buddernugs

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DrKiz said:
If you multifeed to run off they’ll do better. And even in that 1.5 gallon you’ll squeeze a qp.

Read those threads. They’ll blow your mind. Treat coco like hydro, not soil.

Feed them more to run off. You’ll get better results and better yield. How do you think guys get huge buds in a solo cup contest grow?
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You got a link for the icman article? I can’t find it
 
Buddernugs

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DrKiz said:
I go about 5 weeks from seed to flip. It kinda varies how busy I am and how fast the plants root.

I’m not ever in a rush, and I really focus on getting the pots root bound before potting up.

I don’t pay much attention to upstairs as I cut my plants all back anyways at week 3. I want to get roots, not leafs. I top using uncle Bens method. Just above 2nd true node to get four mains on each plant.

I’m basically holding back vertical growth during vege so I can root up.

DTW multi feed coco’s RULE is small pots, root bound from the core outwards, and multi feed often. Never let your pots dry. Put layer of hydroton on top of coco to keep out gnats. Feed often. More the better. I do 9 x day in flower.

In coco multifeed you actually want to root bound your plants. Unlike soil.

Once she hits the two gallon. (Solo to one gallon to 2 gallon) you wait a week and flip.

For training I semi scrog, bend, twist cut and bend the canopy as even and full as possible. Fill the canopy with tops.

I suggest you go to ICMAG and read the two stickies in the coco forum. The DTW one and the Tree’s one.

They are both 100 plus pages. But if you read them you’ll be years ahead of the game.

Their systems are 1lb per 4x4 easy.

I use megacrop instead of Lucas formula, etc. At 1-1.2 EC veg through flower. KISS method.
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I’m a fan of the 4 way lst too 4 branches are a lot easier to manipulate
 
DrKiz

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Buddernugs said:
You got a link for the icman article? I can’t find it
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Be prepared to be mind blown

A few things that I've learned about growing in coco with a drip systm DTW

Ok let me chime in with what I've learned about coco. The majority of my growing life was spent growing with organic soil, I used bio bizz nutes with compost teas and it was great, I grew in 12Ltr pots and watered every 2 days, wet-dry cycles..... Now I was happy growing like that but then I...
www.icmag.com

(Actually the top three stickies in the coco coir forum there are golden. This one I thinks the best. )

For this system to work best you’ll have to up your temps though. You need to get some transpiration happening!

Your plants looking good!
 
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Buddernugs

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I’m going on tv for a smoke and going to read that right meow thx man I appreciate it... I’m going to try to bump up the temps maby if I add a light in their that would help Idk I gota figure it out, I should be at 75-79 correct? I have a bunch of large snakes down their with them so I’m sure my c02 levels are elevated 24/7 down their
I figure I can veg 2 more weeks tops then flip
 
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