should i flower?

mike26b

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my plant is about 8 inches tall and has bushy growth..has a few main colas also..its about 5 weeks into veg..but was stunted due to a heat problem for the first 3 weeks...at each main stem it had about 6 nodes about 1 to 2 inches apart.overalll a veryhealthy plant now...THe question is should i begin to flower??? i know that i plant can double or triple in size by the time its done flowering..i plan to start in the next week..what would my yield be like??im growing in a minature locker that is about 3 ft tall..and i dont even know if its m or female..i would like to find out soon so im not wasting my time and electricity for nothing..any comments would help..or if anyone has any expericence with a plant flowered this small and its yeilds
 

mike26b

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right now im using 3 26w cfls 6500k..but once i start flowering i plan on using 3 18w 2500kcfl and one 26w 6500k cfl..what would my yeild be like???
 

-dank-

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right now im using 3 26w cfls 6500k..but once i start flowering i plan on using 3 18w 2500kcfl and one 26w 6500k cfl..what would my yeild be like???

its gona be crap... get a real light... at least a 400watts of hps... 6 clfs thats some funny shit.....
 

-dank-

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ok, not to just be an asshole and make fun of you.... this is whats up.... if you have a plant, in veg and you veg it to lets say 1ft tall.... once you put it in flower its gona stretch.... to 2 to 3 feet tall... now if you just have some cheap clf's your not gona do shit... reson being... the light from the clf only penatrates a couple inches.... meaning if you have a plant that is more then 6 inches away from your clf its not geetting the light it needs.... the lumes go so far then die out... like a 1000watt hps can penatrate a canapee about 3ft... after that the light is pretty much useless... same thing with a 600watter... maybe it dons't penatrate as much.. like 2 and a 1/2 feet till you start getting light degradation... now if your just using hows lil clf's your not going to get shit..... your plant sounds to be big enough to give you a yeild from what you saying... but you have to remember this... wattage times sq foot = yeild...

on avrage you will get 0.7 grams per watt of HPS light you use to flower...


sooo if you have a 1000 watter you would get about 700 grams.. thats a little over a pound and a 1/2 considering you know what your doing.. now you can get more or you can get less that depends on your setup weather you have co2... what boosters you use.... on avrage if your a new grower using a 400watt hps light in a closit space 4ft x 2ft thats 1/2 a meeter you will get about 6 to 10 oz... ... i just relaised i forgot to tell you about the space part of the watts equation... your light will only cover soo much area... like a 1000watter will cover a 4x4 area.. a 600watter a 3x3 area.... so you do watts by squair foot. like my area is 10x7 that gives me 70sq foot... i have it plants wall to wallll... i also have 6 600watt hps... so thats a total of 3600watts now devide that by 70 cuz thats how many sq foot i have... it comes out to being around 51 watts per sq foot.... i expect to yeild around a pound per light... so thats 6lbs total... wich is 448 x 6 = 2688 grams... devided by 3600watts that gives me 0.74 grams per watt... now you see what i am talking about... i have a 7x10 area... covered by 6 600's at 51qwatts per sqfoot and i'm expecting a yeild of 0.74 grams per sqfoot which works out to 1lb per 600 watt hps lamp...

hope this clears up some things for you...

my best advice is get a real light.... if you want real pot you need real light hats all i have to say
 

munch box

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You need to check out my stealth cabinet cuz LED panels around the sides and more spotlight LEDs in the corners, and more as soon as i figure out where to fit them in. How do you think they will penetrate dank? click the link and check out my pic.
 

-dank-

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You need to check out my stealth cabinet cuz LED panels around the sides and more spotlight LEDs in the corners, and more as soon as i figure out where to fit them in. How do you think they will penetrate dank? click the link and check out my pic.
no offence... but i think LEDs are gay... maybe it will work, but why run all the extra bullshit watts... its alll about color spectrum.... if your fowering you want an orengy spectrum, when your veging you want a blue spectrum... i don't understand why people get Led's and things like that.. its just silly to me, not that it won't help out... all light helps a litle, but realisticly, if your gona get bud out of your watts... you need to be running the correct color spectrum... now personaly i know they have leds in blue and red.. i have seeen grows with it.. but i just think its sillly.... if your going to use the electric... just get your self another hps light... all a person needs to grow weed is a 400watt switchable ballast.... everything else is just filller... i mean reallly if your going to expend the electricity... expend it in a productive way....

ok.... one thing that the CLF's and the LEDs have going for them.... when your starting out your seedligs.... you know i should post some pics on here... of how fast my plants grow.. but that means i have to do extra work... let me explain it like this... if you have the correct light and your enviroment is setup correctly you can get 1 to 2 inches of growth per day, in veg... on this crop now.. i used liquid light... man i gotta upload these pics... i'll be back...
 

-dank-

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Ok the frist pic DSC03391.jpg was takin on 10-11
the second pic DSC03430.jpg was takin on 10-13
and the last pic DSC03438.jpg was takin on 10-16

so these pics cover 5 days of growth in my system, with 1 application of liquid light... now the LL blew my shit up... so this is amazing growth... but even with out the LL my plants still blow up fast... its alll about the enviroment.. another thing... i find that by spraying my plants every day with fresh watter... realllly helps tooo... for faster growth... anyhooot.... this is just me showin off...some times it helps seeing what the right enviroment can do...

now my plants are fuckin huge.... i have 6 plants that pretty much fill my whole room.... there are some spacers here and there... i have 7 girls in coco to fill up the dead spaces... i'm using canna for my coco right now... but later i will be using my leftover nutriant solution to do my coco plants.. so the coco plants are 1 week behind the ones in the hydro system... that way i can use my old nutes from the hydro system to grow filler plants in coco... anyhoot just some food for thought
 

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munch box

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gro-tek has proven LED bulbs to produce big juicy buds. thats why they call 'em bud spotlights. Are you seriously going to put cfl's and leds side by side and compare them to hps? No doubt hps is the way to go, but if your looking for juicy sticky buds, add the LEDs. they use almost no wattage. less than a cfl.
 

munch box

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DANK. you wouldn't have to spray your plants with carbonated water so much if you used co2. increase your ppm to 1500 keep the bugs away. i use a hyper- allergenic air filter on my intake, which runs every 2 hours or so for about 5 minutes during the light cycle,other than that the cabinet stays sealed with co2 cross-flow action. the results are magical. Why are your plants so high when co2 is down low? let your plants breathe bro.
 

mike26b

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okay after reading your responses i agree with you dank that hps or mh system is the way to grow..however this was my first grow and i am currently growing in a locker in my closet..so the objective is a stealth grow.i didnt want to invest in a hps or mh and let myself down so..i used cfls i already had around the house..im notsure of the demensions of the locker but u can get an idea of how big a locker is...the lights are about 2 1/2 inches away from the plant set about half way down in the locker.now about the bud situation,cfls cant give u good buds??? after seeing the rubbermaidgrow and seeing how great it came out inspired me to grow..i believe they only used cfls...there is no doubt that hps mh and hid is better but are you saying the rubbermaid grow had crappy buds?(question responding to dank's post)ill post pics in the morning
 

munch box

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CFLs are definately NOT the way to grow weed. for veg. growth they work well, but as DANK stated earlier, all those lumens mean nothing if they don't penetrate. so get your ass some LEDs and an HPS lighting system.
 

munch box

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the rubbermaid grow is almost guarenteed to have crappy buds.your not saving money by using CFLs. The buds grow too small and too slow. If you were to use a whole lot of CFLs, it would still add up to you using the same ammount of electricity in the long run anyway. With weak buds.
 
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