Should I get this LED

Evil-Mobo

Evil-Mobo

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Not my first rodeo on a forum so in case you get cute and edit your post to delete what I'm referencing here you go.......

"That just looks like a rebrand of another company sold on amazon here in the US forget the name right now.

I would see what you can do for DIY for a quality LED. You should be able to get setup cheap with a 400 watt HID for the time being until you can save more $$ in your budget to get or build a quality LED (COB/QB) later on.

Just my opinion..........."

If you're going to call me out get your facts straight. This is why I stopped trying to help people on this forum.


Now piss the fuck off
 
PSUAGRO.

PSUAGRO.

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thething said:
Christ, what a bunch of reprobates. You've STILL not answered my single fucking question - is that LED, assuming the given specifics are accurate, better than other ones at the same price such as the Viparspectrum, ETC?

Are you that fucking dosed that none of you understand plain fucking English? I said in my initial post that the light needs to be from one shop and in the UK. Do you not think i have good reason for this? Do i need to fucking explain why my requirements are what they are? Do you want my life story too, or can you just respond to what is presented to you?

What you've suggested, apart from HPS which i am receptive to, i excluded in my initial post and FOUR other times and yet you are still bleating about it like a fucking stuck record.

Now you have the front to accuse me of dismissing your suggestions out of hand, when if you had bothered to read the post you were responding to, you blind bastards, you'd have seen that your suggestions weren't relevant to begin with and I was polite for not slapping the shit out of you straight away.

" I was the first to recommend a cheap HID"

You never recommended an HID, you delusional prick. This is your second post in the thread and your first was:
"@CobKits Cobby, you got a DIY build maybe with the CXM's that would fit his budget? Do you ship to the UK?"

Screw you guys. I'll take my advice from people who can actually read.




Thankyou. Atleast you've responded with some relevant information.

Close this thread (and send these goombahs back to school)
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Nice tantrum............... smell you later, asshat
 
Humple

Humple

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OP, I don't know if you're new to the whole forum thing, but it seems like you expect it to be something like a vending machine: put in your coins (questions), make your selection (the advice you WANT), and then grab your snack (in this case, an LED fixture). That's not the way it works. If you want people to take time out of their day to help you, then have a little fucking decorum. You don't have to like or agree with anyone's suggestions, but you sure as shit should appreciate that they're even willing to make suggestions.
 
CobKits

CobKits

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thething said:
I would like something under 200w true power and around £100, so I am looking at this.
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Evil-Mobo said:
@CobKits

Cobby, you got a DIY build maybe with the CXM's that would fit his budget? Do you ship to the UK?
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~200W for £100 ($134) is tough. shipping to uk alone would be $60

there are some options if £150 is in reach.

would prob go with iceled actives and run chips medium hard (2 cxm22 at 80-100W or one clu058 at 150-200W)
 
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thething

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Tim Fox said:
No ITS A PIECE OF SHIT
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How about explaining why the viparspectrum etc would be better than that COB? Is the spectrum worse? Are the light values worse? Because they don't seem to be. Just because i am asking for information doesn't mean that i am not also assessing the credibility of the person providing answers. With an answer like that, you have 0 credibility, you may as well have typed in cuneiform script for the lack of information you are producing. The reality is that you've not even bothered comparing to those other options, you are just an elitist prick comparing to your own COBS and making an instant judgement based on something being cheaper and Chinese.
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."I would see what you can do for DIY for a quality LED. You should be able to get setup cheap with a 400 watt HID for the time being until you can save more $$ in your budget to get or build a quality LED (COB/QB) later on.

Just my opinion..........."

If you're going to call me out get your facts straight. This is why I stopped trying to help people on this forum.."

You are replying to someone who had already 1: Limited QB to uk sites where i can buy everything at once. 2: Limited the max power draw to 200w. Your post was completely useless but still I gave you a polite response...

"QB isn't possible right now because i can't take multiple small deliveries because things are likely to be stolen by people in other flats. I need 1 package that i can organise next day delivery with. 400w HID would be more than i want to spend on electricity, which is very expensive here. Across the length of the grow a more than twice as expensive LED would work out cheaper, not to mention i'd also need a veg solution."

.. and you ignored this but then you want to go and talk amongst yourselves, on my thread, accusing _me_ of dismissing your suggestions out of hand and trying to take the piss, all while you've still not even taken the time to look at the lights I needed help comparing. No son, go fuck yourself.
 
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CobKits said:
~200W for £100 ($134) is tough. shipping to uk alone would be $60

there are some options if £150 is in reach.

would prob go with iceled actives and run chips medium hard (2 cxm22 at 80-100W or one clu058 at 150-200W)
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Don't worry about it. I don't know why he asked you, because i already told him that i would only be looking at DIY cobs from a UK seller because i'd need to be able to anticipate the exact day of arrival.
 
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Humple said:
OP, I don't know if you're new to the whole forum thing, but it seems like you expect it to be something like a vending machine: put in your coins (questions), make your selection (the advice you WANT), and then grab your snack (in this case, an LED fixture). That's not the way it works. If you want people to take time out of their day to help you, then have a little fucking decorum. You don't have to like or agree with anyone's suggestions, but you sure as shit should appreciate that they're even willing to make suggestions.
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No. This isn't how it works. If you don't answer what i've asked, and then start talking amongst yourselves on my thread, attacking me and trying to take the piss because i've not gone with your suggestions which i had already ruled out in the initial post, then you will be disrespected because at this point you've already disrespected me twice. Just because someone is looking for information doesn't mean they have to take this shit without giving some back.
 
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thething

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Nutria said:
I started in a 2x2 with a Mars Hydro 300 (130w), I run it for 2-3 cycles and it does still work. Decent light for 70€
If you don't want to get the max possible yield in that space you can get whatever you want, just don't put more money than what it is needed cause it's a waste of time. Get the cheapest 100-200watt panel. I would send an email to marshydro asking for an old 300 model, or check on aliexpress, they send it from Germany warehouse with dhl. Or check on amazon.
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The reflector Meizhi 450 is only ~£35 more than the basic Mars 300, so this is what i was looking at along with the Bloomwin, which i think had a comparatively much better spectrum and par etc than the Viparspectra/Meizhi.. but despite this thread being three pages and half a dozen boy-prodigy lighting engineers giving their 'advice', i've not been able to get any confirmation about how its basic specs stack up against the Meizhi/Mars etc LEDs. These forums aren't what they used to be....
 
lukio

lukio

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thething said:
i'd need to be able to anticipate the exact day of arrival.
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you can still do this, you fucking idiot. It all comes in one box, too - you lucky sod.

The problem here is YOU! If you spent two mins reading about led efficiency and spectrum instead of whining like lil bitch about your neighbours and having everything sent in one box on a specific day - then you'd know the difference.

You're full of bullshit excuses and have'nt answered a single question about those, eh?

please buy the shit led - it would make my day.

You come to the best place possible for led info and take none of the advice.....well done mate. champion
 
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thething

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lukio said:
you can still do this, you fucking idiot. It all comes in one box, too - you lucky sod.

The problem here is YOU! If you spent two mins reading about led efficiency and spectrum instead of whining like lil bitch about your neighbours and having everything sent in one box on a specific day - then you'd know the difference.

You're full of bullshit excuses and have'nt answered a single question about those, eh?

please buy the shit led - it would make my day.

You come to the best place possible for led info and take none of the advice.....well done mate. champion
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Tardy cock gobbler: If you don't want to answer the question then, faggot, what are you doing here? I've told you that it looks better to me but I am looking for _confirmation_, from someone who knows _more_. If that is not the POINT of this fucking grow forum then what is? You are a walking tumor, do you understand that? You should be in a lab being torn apart with scalpels and studied for medical research. Curing the world of your special cancer would be the greatest acheivement since walking on the fucking moon.

"You're full of bullshit excuses and have'nt answered a single question about those, eh? "

If this fucking thread about my neighbors? I don't have to qualify myself by answering your questions, mong, this isn't a job interview. Either answer what i've asked or go fuck yourself. "excuses"? No, bitch, 'REASONS'. You blame me because YOU don't respect MY requirements that i made at the beginning of the thread. Apparently i need to pass my test to _prove_ my requirements are justified before i can get a relevant response to my questions. How inbred are you exactly? You might be able to figure it out by the number of extra fingers and toes they needed to remove from under your fucking armpit, you fucking mutant.

"you can still do this, you fucking idiot. "

No, you cannot. Anyone who's bought enough from overseas would know this. Not to mention we're then also paying postage and import duties.
 
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thething

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key4 said:
@lukio ive already told him where to buy all the citizen cob parts/kits in the uk and its free 1st class tracked so next daytoo ..no reply, hes just after a fight.
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Wowwww. You really have been inbreeding here, huh.
Another delusional clown thinking he's said something when he hasn't..
Hate to break it to you but this is your first reply to me.
You couldn't make this shit up!
Probably you forgot you were on an alt account and were trying to get me to buy your own shit by using alts to recommend yourself.
 
lukio

lukio

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@thething

I answered your questions in my first reply. " should i get this led ? " I said no.

You banged on about your neighbours knicking your gear and about how you had to have everything delivered on a certain day in one box?

" i can't take multiple small deliveries because things are likely to be stolen by people in other flats. I need 1 package that i can organise next day delivery with"

I told ya it came in one box on a specific day - but that wasnt good enough for you, huh? twat

You asked if you should by that heap of shit purple cob and we said no. you never actually asked for an explanation as to why its shit, you just wanted a a quick answer "Please reply, i don't have much time left to make a decision."

Do you want some tissues for those issues?

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No, you cannot. Anyone who's bought enough from overseas would know this. Not to mention we're then also paying postage and import duties.
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Ive spent thousands of pounds on led lighting from the states and china - all delivered to my door in the UK, have a read of my diary.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/lukios-secret-garden.899450/page-53#post-13815831

i dont think you can afford the better equipment and need cheap shit from Amazon. enjoy

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Tim Fox

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thething said:
How about explaining why the viparspectrum etc would be better than that COB? Is the spectrum worse? Are the light values worse? Because they don't seem to be. Just because i am asking for information doesn't mean that i am not also assessing the credibility of the person providing answers. With an answer like that, you have 0 credibility, you may as well have typed in cuneiform script for the lack of information you are producing. The reality is that you've not even bothered comparing to those other options, you are just an elitist prick comparing to your own COBS and making an instant judgement based on something being cheaper and Chinese.
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."I would see what you can do for DIY for a quality LED. You should be able to get setup cheap with a 400 watt HID for the time being until you can save more $$ in your budget to get or build a quality LED (COB/QB) later on.

Just my opinion..........."

If you're going to call me out get your facts straight. This is why I stopped trying to help people on this forum.."

You are replying to someone who had already 1: Limited QB to uk sites where i can buy everything at once. 2: Limited the max power draw to 200w. Your post was completely useless but still I gave you a polite response...

"QB isn't possible right now because i can't take multiple small deliveries because things are likely to be stolen by people in other flats. I need 1 package that i can organise next day delivery with. 400w HID would be more than i want to spend on electricity, which is very expensive here. Across the length of the grow a more than twice as expensive LED would work out cheaper, not to mention i'd also need a veg solution."

.. and you ignored this but then you want to go and talk amongst yourselves, on my thread, accusing _me_ of dismissing your suggestions out of hand and trying to take the piss, all while you've still not even taken the time to look at the lights I needed help comparing. No son, go fuck yourself.
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nobody likes you,, and nobody wants to hang out with you, and nobody wants to smoke your weed,,,
 
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thething

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Lukio. This is what you said:

"Yo! All of my QB shipments came in one box, every time to my door - signed for delivery. no one's nicking your gear unless they rob DHL.

Dont buy the bloomwin, it looks shit.

im in the uk btw"

So no, not a specific day and not from inside the UK, and after shipping and import duty far too expensive. And yes, if i am out then people will sign for a DHL package and steal it.
You made this comment after my initial post with my requirements, and directly after this post where i quoted myself ALREADY excluding QB 3 times, and asking what i want more clearly.

"I wonder if i am speaking a different language or something.
1x"they aren't an option right now (security reasons...)"
2x"Should I get this or do you suggest another LED that is not a QB for a similar price?"
3x"QB isn't possible right now.."

Can nobody just look at that Bloomwin and tell me, by its technical details, if it should be the best non QB for the money that i can get right now?"

You didn't pay attention to all of that, nor answer my question, but still i was respectful.

"It looks shit"
Great. Why? I can see grow journals of Viparspectra and Mars LEDs and they aren't shit. Maybe not as good as DIY COB but can we just get a modicum of objectivity here?
How would that Bloomwin - if its spectrum and specs are accurate - compare to other LEDs that I can check the performance of, such as Viparspectra, Meizhi, Mars etc?"

And again, self appointed lighting engineer who knows everything there is to know, didn't bother to answer my question, instead you start being a bitch because i rejected your suggestion. Heres the proof, your next reply:

"but they are shit compared to QB or proper white COBS"

I was not asking for a comparison with your cobs. I was asking for a comparison with Meizhi/Viparspectra. You just want to talk about how great your cobs are.
Great, now fuck off.
 
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thething

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Tim Fox said:
nobody likes you,, and nobody wants to hang out with you, and nobody wants to smoke your weed,,,
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That's great, because to be friends with someone like you would mean i was doing something wrong. You've all been stewing here for so long, there is a distinct air of inbreeding around the place.
 
Tim Fox

Tim Fox

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thething said:
That's great, because to be friends with someone like you would mean i was doing something wrong. You've all been stewing here for so long, there is a distinct air of inbreeding around the place.
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why if it isnt the thing,, bringing more shame upon himself because he cant be a big boy and purchase a light without somebody holding his little hands,,, grow up,, stop moaning over what people say about you,, stop whinning about nobody giving you the type of answers "you" wish they would,, you cant make people do or say things,, you can only control YOURSELF,, but sadly you cant seem to do that very well either,,,
 
lukio

lukio

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@thething

your original "security" reasons for not wanting QB is your bullshit story for not being able to afford them. you can delay shipping if you're not in...that's pretty standard.
It's 2017 and there are many ways of safely receiving your own mail...have you ever used DHL from the states before? 20 massive pounds they charge for import..." Anyone who's bought enough from overseas would know this." - Classic

"You just want to talk about how great your cobs are"

i dont use cobs - clever cloggs (: They are good, though. Specially those white ones, not so much the cheap purple... avoid those...
 
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thething

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Tim Fox said:
why if it isnt the thing,, bringing more shame upon himself because he cant be a big boy and purchase a light without somebody holding his little hands,,, grow up,, stop moaning over what people say about you,, stop whinning about nobody giving you the type of answers "you" wish they would,, you cant make people do or say things,, you can only control YOURSELF,, but sadly you cant seem to do that very well either,,,
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So you've just admitted that you had no intention of giving advice, you think it is shameful to ask for advice on a forum specifically designed for sharing information. You are also admitting to spam, because you've admitted no intention of answering the questions that have been asked. You just want to sell your product. You are cancer.
 
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