should I quit this girls??----rootrot

rkymtnman

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or as an experiment, carefully cut one of them out of the rockwool and gently put it in the hydroton.
 

kenmastazz

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hmmm, i gotcha. not sure what to do then but it's either light leaks or the rockwool.

can you flood your tubes 100% with bleach solution? maybe you just aren't killing it all
i will try the tea tomorrow and if there is anything left I hope it will get dealt with by all the bennies....do you see root rot?
 

Larry3215

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Id bet part of the problem is those nutes - they have a lot of organics in them, and organic's feed bacteria like crazy. Also, forget teas for the same reason.

You are close to loosing them I think.
 

kenmastazz

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I think I give this system up it’s so frustrating....second grow and I did a lot of things different but exactly the same problems. I never thought after all this years I feel like a noob again.
 

Larry3215

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Which organic nutes do you mean?
Post #20, second pic - nutes derived from algae = organic. Plus plant growth hormones, and most of the other ingredients.

i may be wrong but pool shock is bleach(chlorine).
They both are chlorine based, but some bleach has dies, and other stuff in it you might not want in your pot. These days you also need to check the label on pool shock. Some of it has added crap you for sure dont want - like copper and/or other algicides.
 

kenmastazz

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Post #20, second pic - nutes derived from algae = organic. Plus plant growth hormones, and most of the other ingredients.
the issue started before I added the mycorrhiza. I only used geh trio calmag and silica no organics. The pics were taken before adding the tea and if organic is the reason for root rot and slime why is heisenbergs tea the advice I’m getting from various hydro guys
 

Larry3215

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the issue started before I added the mycorrhiza. I only used geh trio calmag and silica no organics. The pics were taken before adding the tea and if organic is the reason for root rot and slime why is heisenbergs tea the advice I’m getting from various hydro guys
It looks like adding the mycorrhiza hasnt helped any.

Which calmag? Some have organic components and/or add ons. Other than that, I dont know why the rot started. All your other specs seem fine.

Maybe you just got unlucky or accidentally transferred some contaminant at some point. I happen to live in a rain forest with about 100 foot thick layer of decomposing vegitation for soil, plus tons of mold, algae, etc just floating around in the air waiting to attack my rez if I drop my guard for one moment.

As far as the tea recommendation, there are all sorts of silly people on forums recommending all sorts of 'stoner science'. Heck, for all you know my advice is pure silly season hoodoo spewing from an over stoned brain ;)

To be fair though, some people manage to run hydro successfully using organics in their nutes, and some have success with hydroguard, etc, so maybe that tea will work for you. If you dont want to go the chlorine route, then it cant hurt much more to give it a try. i'd do something fast though. Root rot is hard as heck to kill once its established and it will just get harder the longer you wait.
 

maranibbana

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Hi,

this is my first aeroponic grow I been growing in soil for a few years and some grows with dwc never had an issue this bad.
I germinated the seeds in aerogarden with no problems but I guess I transplanted them too late so the roots get touched and exposed because I couldn't get them through the net pot holes so I guess they got contaminated.

They are 12 days old but look very behind and are autos :wall: 2 days ago I put 5ppms per gallon bleach into the water but no change until now so Im not sure to quit the girls or give them some more time......

water temp is around 64-68F and ph stable at 5.8 with RO water 200ppms calmag, silica and GHE tripart ferts all 500ppms...
Why did you stray from your soil past?
 

Larry3215

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I just had a thought. You said your water temps were down in the mid 60's - but what are the temps in the root chamber? Does the water have time to warm up or it the air temp inside higher by chance?

Im reaching for anything now....

EDIT: Thought #2 - light pollution.

I was just going over some changes Im planning for my next grow. One of my critical check items is always light leaks. Light leaks are bad news. Light leaks can cause algae/bacterial growth even when running a sterile rez with pure salt nutes.

I notice all your fittings, tubing, and root chamber are white plastic. Cant tell about your rez.

White plastic doesnt stop light well at all unless its really thick. I see what look like thin plastic caps filling some unused net pot holes, and that tubing you are using looks fairly thin.

Take a bright flashlight and put it up tight against the side of the plastic and see if any light gets through. Check the rez lid, fittings etc. If light is getting through, a layer of aluminum foil will block it without a lot of trouble trying to paint, or replacing parts.
 
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kenmastazz

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It looks like adding the mycorrhiza hasnt helped any.

Which calmag? Some have organic components and/or add ons. Other than that, I dont know why the rot started. All your other specs seem fine.

Maybe you just got unlucky or accidentally transferred some contaminant at some point. I happen to live in a rain forest with about 100 foot thick layer of decomposing vegitation for soil, plus tons of mold, algae, etc just floating around in the air waiting to attack my rez if I drop my guard for one moment.

As far as the tea recommendation, there are all sorts of silly people on forums recommending all sorts of 'stoner science'. Heck, for all you know my advice is pure silly season hoodoo spewing from an over stoned brain ;)

To be fair though, some people manage to run hydro successfully using organics in their nutes, and some have success with hydroguard, etc, so maybe that tea will work for you. If you dont want to go the chlorine route, then it cant hurt much more to give it a try. i'd do something fast though. Root rot is hard as heck to kill once its established and it will just get harder the longer you wait.
i use ghe calmag but i think for the next run i use tapwater without letting it sit overnight so i have some calmag and bleach(chlorine) and will only use maxibloom like i did in dwc with no issues at all. Ive heard maxibloom is very clean I will even let the pump on a timer 1on4off i hope less water more oxygen no slime....i hoopppeee
 

rkymtnman

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i use ghe calmag but i think for the next run i use tapwater without letting it sit overnight so i have some calmag and bleach(chlorine) and will only use maxibloom like i did in dwc with no issues at all. Ive heard maxibloom is very clean I will even let the pump on a timer 1on4off i hope less water more oxygen no slime....i hoopppeee
do you think you can cut one out of the rockwool without destroying the roots? i still think the RW is the issue being wet all the time
 
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