Should I replant them?

lvlone

Member
Should I plant them into a larger gallon pot? They had good root growth when they were cloned, and the chi made this much progress in about 10 days. The taller one is inner chi and the short bushy one is White Buffalo. I don't have a pic of early WB.
 

mike4c4

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they look fine in those pots for now. do you have holes in the bottom of the pots. hbbum is right your starving tall plant is over or under watered. I dont care what kind of plant you got the leaves aren't supposed to hang like that. your killing it. 4 more leaves going to fall off.
 

werejammmin420

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Looks over watered, let it dry out abit, remember how heavy the pot was before you added water, get almost to that weight then water again and so on...
 

Nullis

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I don't know about over watered but that taller one\potential sativa looks in rough shape and like it needs more light for sure. Sativa strains in general aren't good for low light grows. When plants aren't getting much light, or for another reason aren't growing much then they don't take up much water and wont need to be watered very frequently either. It could be a little bit of both, but there def isn't enough light going around there.

What do you mean by "an organic compound with"? What if anything did you mix into the FF? What brand was it exactly, Ocean Forest?
 

hbbum

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A few things I would look at :

1.) Make sure you are holes in the bottom of those pots, they may be retaining to much water.
2.) Forget about the "organic compound" for now. Any of the FF soils should be plenty for plants of that age.
3.) Mix in some perlite into the soil, that will help keep you from over watering.

Once they have matured, you can look at adding in other organic materials, but honestly, until you get some experience under your belt, I would stick to the pre-made soils. I would cut what you have 2:1 with perlite. Even then, it may be too late for the tall one, it may not be able to take the stress of a transplant in its current state.
 

lvlone

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they look fine in those pots for now. do you have holes in the bottom of the pots. hbbum is right your starving tall plant is over or under watered. I dont care what kind of plant you got the leaves aren't supposed to hang like that. your killing it. 4 more leaves going to fall off.
Yah you guys were right. I noticed that two of the big holes got jammed with something when I moved it. But how old would you say they are and when do you think I should replant them?
 

lvlone

Member
A few things I would look at :

1.) Make sure you are holes in the bottom of those pots, they may be retaining to much water.
2.) Forget about the "organic compound" for now. Any of the FF soils should be plenty for plants of that age.
3.) Mix in some perlite into the soil, that will help keep you from over watering.

Once they have matured, you can look at adding in other organic materials, but honestly, until you get some experience under your belt, I would stick to the pre-made soils. I would cut what you have 2:1 with perlite. Even then, it may be too late for the tall one, it may not be able to take the stress of a transplant in its current state.
It's actually putting out a lot of growth, it is just hard to tell from the pic. I think it will make it, I just drilled new holes for it last night and it has a new set coming out of the top right now that are horizontal, along with the bottom ones. Should I replant it into some fresh soli mix with perlite?
 

lvlone

Member
I don't know about over watered but that taller one\potential sativa looks in rough shape and like it needs more light for sure. Sativa strains in general aren't good for low light grows. When plants aren't getting much light, or for another reason aren't growing much then they don't take up much water and wont need to be watered very frequently either. It could be a little bit of both, but there def isn't enough light going around there.

What do you mean by "an organic compound with"? What if anything did you mix into the FF? What brand was it exactly, Ocean Forest?
I'm using FF organics, and a organic pine fine mix with compound waste. The plants love it, I just did not have enough holes in the pot. And I think it's plenty of light, This White Buffalo is mixed with romulan but is more sativa then the chi.
 

rob333

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Should I plant them into a larger gallon pot? They had good root growth when they were cloned, and the chi made this much progress in about 10 days. The taller one is inner chi and the short bushy one is White Buffalo. I don't have a pic of early WB.
nope they wont get that big with them lights prob not much bigger then that they just fill out abit ;)
 

hbbum

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I would give it a few days to recover first.

If you want to transplant after yhat, skip the pine materials and go 2:1 or 1:1 soil and perlite and bury the stem to about 1 to 2 inches from the bottom leaf set.

The additional perlite will make it harder to over water. You can also drop the lights to about 3 inches from the top and get a fan blowing on them.

All just my opinion.
 

lvlone

Member
nope they wont get that big with them lights prob not much bigger then that they just fill out abit ;)
I'm using 8 46 watt cfl grow lights and 3 64 watt floods over that...I'm thinking it will get bigger like they always do but thanks. It's my first soil grow indoors, but I'm use to bubbleponics
 

lvlone

Member
I would give it a few days to recover first.

If you want to transplant after yhat, skip the pine materials and go 2:1 or 1:1 soil and perlite and bury the stem to about 1 to 2 inches from the bottom leaf set.

The additional perlite will make it harder to over water. You can also drop the lights to about 3 inches from the top and get a fan blowing on them.

All just my opinion.
Ok, thanks. I have the fan, lighting and all that going already for it. Would you think it would be a bad idea to transplant it to a hydro system after a few days? I'm not use to soil, and I don't want to shock it. I was trying to go organic 100% for those two strains so I could use the chi as a mother plant for my tent.
 

hbbum

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I have never switched from soil to hydro mid grow. Some say you can gently rinse the dirt from the roots and do it, others say they have gotten root rot when trying. I would say you have probably put the girls through enough :) If you want to switch, maybe nurse them back to health and then take cuttings and put them in hydro?

Once you get them back to healthy though, you may as well do a soil run, it might be a fun experiment for you. I just switched from soil to hydro and it is a good change, if only because it is different :) Soil is pretty easy, you just need to let them go on their own for awhile, hardest thing is letting them be and not killing them with your attention (and too much water).
 

lvlone

Member
I have never switched from soil to hydro mid grow. Some say you can gently rinse the dirt from the roots and do it, others say they have gotten root rot when trying. I would say you have probably put the girls through enough :) If you want to switch, maybe nurse them back to health and then take cuttings and put them in hydro?

Once you get them back to healthy though, you may as well do a soil run, it might be a fun experiment for you. I just switched from soil to hydro and it is a good change, if only because it is different :) Soil is pretty easy, you just need to let them go on their own for awhile, hardest thing is letting them be and not killing them with your attention (and too much water).
Thanks my man, I decided to stick with the soil and the chi is about to snap back. I gave it some nutes and it started to branch out of the Arms of the existing limbs. So two questions, should I stick to a 16/8 light cycle? And do you think it would be ok to cut off the dead limbs on the bottom there? They are gone it looks like and draining the plant.
 

hbbum

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I do 18/6 , if you give a slight rig and they fall of, go ahead, otherwise they will fall off on their own
 
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