should i start flowering ?

ok so this is the last harvest im gonna have in this current location so im trying to make it big so it will last till i can get started up again in my new house. with that out of the way

i have 6 female ice plants ( from nirvana shop ) started with 10 but 3 were males 1 was suffering from shock due to toping and nute burn so i killed it to conserve light for the healthy ladys.

they are soil plants each in their own individual 5 gallon grow bag with pro mix soil no pre added nutes just co op fungus for the roots

im using general hydroponics maxi series dry nutes and i have a feeding schedual and a ppm meter now so thats going well no more guess work.

the plants are inside a 4x4x6 grow enclosure and i keep the lights close to prevent stretching

the light source is 2 400 watt MH lamps ( i have the HPS bulbs for flowering ) and a t5 with 6 horticultural bulbs. I have 4 of the plants under the MH lamps and 2 dirrectly under the t5 ( the plan was to make the ones under the flouresent mothers but that will have to happen later )

i am debating getting that 130 dollar co2 bucket but im not sure yet ( thoughts on this i know it increases yeild hurts potency but thats it i dont know the extent of either i have heard 40 % more yield, is this correct ?)



my goal is to get around 3-4 oz dry per plant, grow space isn't an issue its more how large can i let them get befor my light sources are insufficient

so basicly how much larger should i let these get befor i start flowering, should i get the Co2 bucket and would it be worth while to buy another 1000 watt hps for flowering or do i have enough already to achieve my desired yield

picture #9 is the plants under the t5 flouresent and its real obvious how much better the MH lamps are but oh well the t5 is great for clones and mothers and those two will just be stocky bushs i probley wont get the desired yeild off them but off the other 4 i want 1 lb dry all together atleast

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You should be able to start flowering any time they will double in size, so you should be able to get the yield you want....if you get more you can always share the wealth lol...

if you even want to get close to 3-4 ounces a plant then you are gonna have to let them veg longer and then LST them.

the mainstem is already about as thick as my thumb so lst is most likely out so you dont think even with more vegging that 4 ounces dry per plant isn't possible with out LST

no i dont believe you can reach that number, your best bet is gonna be that when you harvest just take the top buds that are finished and let the lower buds stay in flowering to mature and add weight.

i know im splliting hairs here but what if i were to veg them up to around 2 1/2 foot tall with 2 more sets of toppings because i have seen plants yeild much greater quantitys then i am looking for. i have till august to finish these hell i could probley get 2 or 3 harvests in with clones but i dont want to push it

I would let them veg a lil longer...you got some nice bushes so maximize their potential. If height is a problem you can top, fim, or LST. they even have nutes that stop vertical growth(bushmaster).

but nice bush...never thought I would say that to guy

hieght isn't an issue i just topped it so i could let it bush out and have more growth sites and the alow the side growth catch up to the top of the plant. i have upwards of 6 feet ( 5 1/4 growing feet ) in the tent and i have 10 foot vaulted cielings if it comes to that but i dont think it will. my only constraint is time and thats not an issue either. i also debated keeping one vegged under the flouresent while the others flowered then stick the last one outsidebeginning of next grow season to make a monster

well the only thing about it is yes ive seen plants yield more than that as well but with 400 watt lights you cant penetrate as far down as a higher wattage bulb, thats why LST shoulda been done but if you let them vefg to 2 1/2 feet then you are gonna have 5-6 foot plants, now if you are gonna do this i would recommend invest in some cfls and putting them around the sides of the plant during flowering to provide the lower buds who arent getting enough light.

that is a good idea to keep that one in veg for an outdoor grow or to make as a mother plant to take clones and then you have guranteed females and dont have to order seeds.

thats a pretty good idea...Im all about having many plants in different stages..I get bored when its just one. You should flower one, and LST one veg it 30 days longer than the first one, and put one outside..that was a pretty good idea. you would have 10 footer if you had a big enough pot...or you could just use the earth as you pot.

their in 5 gallon bags now so im set for 5 foot of growth inside. my first plan was to have a hydro SOG with these plants flower the 4 i had and use the other 2 shorter ones as mothers kept in a seperate room. then just cut clones every 2 weeks and their we go. but my buddy is comming back from florida and wants his house back so i can't grow their anymore. so thats why i want a huge yield of these bad girls to tide me over untill i can get re set up in my new house. i to love having plants in all stages of life i just cant right now. if i were to have the two 400 watts above above the 6 plants and ran the t5 horrizontally along the side would that be enough light for huge plants or should i invest 140 $ more and get a 1000 watt also thoughts on Co2 ?

co2 isnt necessary, it will add to the final yield but is a luxury that should be the last thing added to a grow. Now the 1000 watt idea could work, if you get that and hang it above the plants and then take your 2 400 watters and vertically hang them between the plants and you should hit 4 ounces

alright so you beleive my money is better spent on a 1000 watt light as opposed to Co2 to get the most yield per dollar ( clearly both is the correct option ) but for shits and giggles which would give more independently in your opinion

the light is the most important thing for growing, you have co2 in your room naturally and the more time you spend with your plants then the more co2 you naturally produce for them.

this is an example of what you can achieve.....given the right genetics and setup

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/101347-critical-mass-tree-grow-x.html

link didn't work and i live in a cold cold state and still manage to maintain a sun tan, so i am with my plants alot

it works, i just clicked on it....if it still wont work for you click on search and type critical mass and click search, youll see it on the first page, it will say critical mass tree grow