Show Off You're Grow Room
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FootClan
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this should explain everything about the panel you could possibly want to know about.......
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The control system is based on an industrial PLC (programmable logic controller) called momentum. made by Schneider Electric (Modicon for those interested). The unit runs on 24VDC so a power supply is needed. It has 8 discrete inputs and 8 discrete outputs. The analog module has 8 analog inputs and each point is configurable for 0-10 VDC or 4-20mA as required. The outputs have interposing relays as the controllers typically can not handle the currents used in your application. I used one of the software platforms available from Schneider called " proworks". It utilizes a programming style known as LL984 or simply "ladder logic.". It is fairly easy to navigate if you have any industrial programming experience. Novices will find the help files sketchy. This controller, once programmed, is a stand alone system and the unit has a backup battery to retain the program if powered down. It does not have ANY human machine interface. I am using an old home computer as the HMI. It communicates with the PLC via ethernet. The application is generically referred to as SCADA (supervisory control and data acquisition). It is a free demo package from Inductive Automation called "Ignition" It is Java based and runs as a webpage. I run it under Firefox. The problem is this demo runs for 2 hours max and then shuts down and must be restarted. Keep in mind that the controller runs continuously without the need of the HMI. The licensed version is pricey ( last I checked it is over 15000.00) yes , really! The programming was tough for me as I had no experience with Java. The program utilizes an SQL database as its backbone. It has almost unlimited potential to build your own graphics or pick from the included library. the trend screens are invaluable for tuning the system and if I used an inexpensive commercially available HMI package, i would have to do without trend analysis. The advantage in using scada is that most computers with 10-100 NIC cards are ready to go with no modification required. You can share this with every one with a request that they please share thier designs with me. I might pick up a few pointers that way.
Homegrowncronic
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Thanks 420..that room was a partial veg/flower room before I recently built the new flower room that is 16x24 9k..I'm fortunate and have a large garage to do all my growing so I was able to add the new flower room right on to the 16x16. I will post pics of the flower room once I get these girls in there..there is also 2 8x8 rooms in the garage that are connected to the veg/new flower..one is an existing control room..and the other one will be a clone/working area with counter tops and that. I still have to finish that room, ive been working on a new project recently so time has been an issue..I plan on doing a full log on the build out of the new project along with journals of my existing rooms. It's been a long while since ive been on the forums, especially riu so I have a lot to share...specs on that new op are 24x32x10 space..16x16 9k veg, 16x24 15k flower, fully equipped with control/clone/mother/drying rooms..im in a med state so its about keeping the numbers friendly and the ladies large..equipment has been purchased, and framing and electrical is mostly complete so I will start a log here in the next few days with lots of pics..sorry for the long ass response, hope it all makes sense lol..
Thanks warlock..if it weren't for some very generous and hard working people none of this would ever be possible
jane's phasm
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That's a lot of work for a small op. Sero Systems has a starter package for their controllers running around $299. I believe that included pretty much everything needed to get up and running. They sell a whole range of accessories as well as well to suit your grow method. Oh yeah, they have an iPhone app too!this should explain everything about the panel you could possibly want to know about.......
The control system is based on an industrial PLC (programmable logic controller) called momentum. made by Schneider Electric (Modicon for those interested). The unit runs on 24VDC so a power supply is needed. It has 8 discrete inputs and 8 discrete outputs. The analog module has 8 analog inputs and each point is configurable for 0-10 VDC or 4-20mA as required. The outputs have interposing relays as the controllers typically can not handle the currents used in your application. I used one of the software platforms available from Schneider called " proworks". It utilizes a programming style known as LL984 or simply "ladder logic.". It is fairly easy to navigate if you have any industrial programming experience. Novices will find the help files sketchy. This controller, once programmed, is a stand alone system and the unit has a backup battery to retain the program if powered down. It does not have ANY human machine interface. I am using an old home computer as the HMI. It communicates with the PLC via ethernet. The application is generically referred to as SCADA (supervisory control and data acquisition). It is a free demo package from Inductive Automation called "Ignition" It is Java based and runs as a webpage. I run it under Firefox. The problem is this demo runs for 2 hours max and then shuts down and must be restarted. Keep in mind that the controller runs continuously without the need of the HMI. The licensed version is pricey ( last I checked it is over 15000.00) yes , really! The programming was tough for me as I had no experience with Java. The program utilizes an SQL database as its backbone. It has almost unlimited potential to build your own graphics or pick from the included library. the trend screens are invaluable for tuning the system and if I used an inexpensive commercially available HMI package, i would have to do without trend analysis. The advantage in using scada is that most computers with 10-100 NIC cards are ready to go with no modification required. You can share this with every one with a request that they please share thier designs with me. I might pick up a few pointers that way.
FootClan
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sounds cool.......didnt spend any money on the control box was built FREE and got hardware FREE too.....Only thing that cost money was the censors that i had to buy because that was one thing we couldnt make...
axionjaxson
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View attachment 2062802miracle grow and dyna gro , doin it big ........lol just kidding about doin it big , but yah miracle grow soil , miracle grow perlite , and dyna gro foliage pro , been in flower for 4 days now.
jane's phasm
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So what exactly do you have to program in Java.. the webapp?
ShLUbY
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haha tell me about it! im on a budget til i get this harvest down... i was growing for a long time learning the ropes... finally got my card, gettin more serious about it...
i acquired some mites from a buddy on my last grow (harvested oct 2011)
and took a break from cultivating for a while cause it really pissed me off after 3 yrs of doing it and not having mites ever i take in 2 clones from a rookie and they spread... i know rookie mistake well im a better grower for it now.i was growing in a small space (hidden cellar) and decided to get on the ball and build a new room, So after over a month of building and planning the above pictures of what I posted were the result and I put the equipment I already had in it to get the first crop going. When I harvest this crop in a couple months I'm going to be doing some changes (lights and whatever else) other than that how does she look
i know im much happier for it... it's so much more convenient!!!
ShLUbY
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this is beautiful!!!!!!!!! nicely done... I LOVE the strawberry cough, green crack, and have been wanting the white russian
dazedddNconfuseddd
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Nice box, I've got one extremely similar. What size lights are you using? I've got 2-27W 5000k CFLs and a 65W 6500k CFL. My box is roughly the same size maybe a little bigger. This is my first grow and I'm not sure if thats enough Wattage/lumens for my plants.
haha tell me about it! im on a budget til i get this harvest down... i was growing for a long time learning the ropes... finally got my card, gettin more serious about it...
i acquired some mites from a buddy on my last grow (harvested oct 2011)
i was growing in a small space (hidden cellar) and decided to get on the ball and build a new room, So after over a month of building and planning the above pictures of what I posted were the result and I put the equipment I already had in it to get the first crop going. When I harvest this crop in a couple months I'm going to be doing some changes (lights and whatever else) other than that how does she look
Your room looks good man. Reminds me of a room I did back in 2010 when I was just a beginner. Your keeping it simple and clean. I would tell throw more lights in there, either 600 watts or 1,000 watts you as soon as you can. Your going to have to deal with a lot more heat so get ready for it. I would even put a co2 gen. in there, fuck it right ?! keep it up man . !!
FrostyLove
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That is to be in the spare bedroom haha.
berkman858
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Here is my new grow tent. 5 x 5, first grow in 10 years. Wish me luck.
axionjaxson
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sweet......
BIG KUSH DADDY
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THats off the hook Bro!!!!
Reloader
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Here is my tent 7x7x7 that I have set-up in a spare bedroom. Right now I am running 2 600 hps with 8'inch cooling, and a huge 8' filter with a hydrofarm 750 cfm fan. For intake I am using a '6 430 cfm hydrofarm fan that is ducted to a window bringing fresh outside air inside my tent. All my fans are on speed controls so I can keep lights on temps at an optimum 73 degrees. Right now I have some LSD at about 33 days into flower.
