PlantManBee
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the no burning weed is usually a potassium source problem...hardwood ash should solve it or phosphate of potash. from an old Mel Frank book.
Silica and cannabis
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Licknobb420
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Well they survived lastnights watering and there lookin beautiful! thanks again!! will post when i see dramatic results in a couple weeks!! wish me luck!!!!!!
sven deisel
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yeah i have to head to the dro store this weekend i might just jump aboard and grab some advanced rhino skin. reading the thing for it doesnt say anything about getting bigger or yeild. wonder if i give it enough ut will break the teeth of animals lol
orgnlmrwiggles
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hey guys, i was reading over this thread yesterday and have read a few things over the past month or so about silica. i went down the local dro sto (lol) and picked up some of this rhino skin. the guy behind the counter seemed pretty noob about the product, but then he said "do you know what your doing?" and "well i had a friend who used this and it messed up his plants" this guy is new to this shop though. should i worry? any tips?
Licknobb420
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im usin the silikamajic and i havent had a problem yet! go for it!!! good luck
mr.smileyface
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RHINO SKIN. Potassium Silicate.
On the alkaline side. I add a tablespoon per 25 gallon
Its toughens the cell walls of the plant.
You could add rare earth to your soil beds.
On the alkaline side. I add a tablespoon per 25 gallon
Its toughens the cell walls of the plant.
You could add rare earth to your soil beds.
Licknobb420
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damn that stuff must be pretty strong!
silica will raise your PH some people use to to ajust PH up .
ive used silica for around 2 years now. the best way to think of silica is boot camp for your plants...it makes them tough and strong. the branch's become thick and strong so does every part of the plant allowing it to grow healthier with less stress and building a frame that can support more bud easier.
thats kind of what a scrog does if you think about it..takes some of the stress of holding the weight of the bud up and transfers that energy into bud development.
i use it in two forms one is liquid that is several manif. put out. reasonable cheap AN products are good but to expensive on this particular item.
i also use rare earth mixed into the soil. it has humic acids in it derived from leonardite and silica.
silica is natural in the earth. ALL THE EARTH ALL OVER THE WORLD.
ive used silica for around 2 years now. the best way to think of silica is boot camp for your plants...it makes them tough and strong. the branch's become thick and strong so does every part of the plant allowing it to grow healthier with less stress and building a frame that can support more bud easier.
thats kind of what a scrog does if you think about it..takes some of the stress of holding the weight of the bud up and transfers that energy into bud development.
i use it in two forms one is liquid that is several manif. put out. reasonable cheap AN products are good but to expensive on this particular item.
i also use rare earth mixed into the soil. it has humic acids in it derived from leonardite and silica.
silica is natural in the earth. ALL THE EARTH ALL OVER THE WORLD.
d.c. beard
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Yeah DE is mostly silica BECAUSE "Silica is most commonly found in nature as sand or quartz, as well as in the cell walls of diatoms." DE is not silica as we're talking about, and is not used for this type of application. DE is only used in agriculture for pest removal.Diatomaceous earth (pronounced /ˌdaɪ.ətɵˌmeɪʃəs ˈɜrθ/) also known as diatomite or kieselgur, is a naturally occurring, soft, siliceous sedimentary rock that is easily crumbled into a fine white to off-white powder. It has a particle size ranging from less than 1 micron to more than 1 millimeter, but typically 10 to 200 microns.[1] This powder has an abrasive feel, similar to pumice powder, and is very light, due to its high porosity. The typical chemical composition of oven dried diatomaceous earth is 80 to 90% silica, with 2 to 4% alumina (attributed mostly to clay minerals) and 0.5 to 2% iron oxide.[1]
Diatomaceous earth is mostly silica
If you read further down in the article that you prob quoted from you'll also find this:
"Diatomaceous earth consists of fossilized remains of diatoms, a type of hard-shelled algae. It is used as a filtration aid, as a mild abrasive, as a mechanical insecticide, as an absorbent for liquids, as cat litter, as an activator in blood clotting studies, and as a component of dynamite. As it is also heat-resistant, it can be used as a thermal insulator.
(Note no listing of use for silica enichment of soil...), and also this:
"Use in agriculture
Natural freshwater diatomaceous earth is used in agriculture for grain storage as an anti-caking agent, as well as insecticide.[6] It is approved by the US Department of Agriculture as a feed supplement.
It is also used as a neutral anthelmentic (de-wormer). Some farmers add it to their livestock and poultry feed to improve the health of animals.[7] "Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth" is widely available in agricultural feed supply stores. It is acceptable as organic feed additive for livestock."
So basically the DE that you buy for top-dressing your soil, while it is mostly comprised of silica-based organisms, is not for enriching your soils with silica and won't because it is not the proper delivery method for plants. That's why we have silica products on the market, which are designed for a completely different application than DE powder and are also in a different form which allows them to actually be absorbed and used by the plant.
Read the while article next time.
mr.smileyface
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Rare earth is killer. I add oxycal bat guano and wormcastings. I also water with Pureblendpro bloom, AN three part, topload,rhinoskin,diamond nectar,hydroboost(wk3,4) then koolbloom(wk6,7) Then flush for ten days.
The stems are so thick when chop chop time is ready. Topload is like bushmaster.
The silca is for the plants that take alot of stress. Humic acid makes the nutrients more available in the growing medium.
It says not to use Rhinoskin past week 6.
I think they are tough enough after that.
Rhinoskin is very potent. It says 2mill per litre but i say 1 tablespoon per 25 gallons. Maybe two if your plants are stress.
PlantManBee
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read between the lines next time....do you think if it is not labeled and marketed as a "new tech" it can't be beneficial? I use it and my garden very healthy, and no fungus gnats. no HARM in using DE as a top dressing and it IS at least part of rare earth. but go ahead and spend the extra bread if you want.Yeah DE is mostly silica BECAUSE "Silica is most commonly found in nature as sand or quartz, as well as in the cell walls of diatoms." DE is not silica as we're talking about, and is not used for this type of application. DE is only used in agriculture for pest removal.
If you read further down in the article that you prob quoted from you'll also find this:
"Diatomaceous earth consists of fossilized remains of diatoms, a type of hard-shelled algae. It is used as a filtration aid, as a mild abrasive, as a mechanical insecticide, as an absorbent for liquids, as cat litter, as an activator in blood clotting studies, and as a component of dynamite. As it is also heat-resistant, it can be used as a thermal insulator.
(Note no listing of use for silica enichment of soil...), and also this:
"Use in agriculture
Natural freshwater diatomaceous earth is used in agriculture for grain storage as an anti-caking agent, as well as insecticide.[6] It is approved by the US Department of Agriculture as a feed supplement.
It is also used as a neutral anthelmentic (de-wormer). Some farmers add it to their livestock and poultry feed to improve the health of animals.[7] "Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth" is widely available in agricultural feed supply stores. It is acceptable as organic feed additive for livestock."
So basically the DE that you buy for top-dressing your soil, while it is mostly comprised of silica-based organisms, is not for enriching your soils with silica and won't because it is not the proper delivery method for plants. That's why we have silica products on the market, which are designed for a completely different application than DE powder and are also in a different form which allows them to actually be absorbed and used by the plant.
do you think my organic grow needs a corporation to break down what is in the soil? i hired microbes to do it
DE is ancient, in other words it is partially decomposed.
d.c. beard
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I hear ya man, all I'm saying is that I think there are much better delivery methods available for getting silica into the plant than what DE offers. I do think that DE's great for flying and burrowing pests, and it's certainly not going to harm your plants. Maybe your plants look great because you're a good grower?read between the lines next time....do you think if it is not labeled and marketed as a "new tech" it can't be beneficial? I use it and my garden very healthy, and no fungus gnats. no HARM in using DE as a top dressing and it IS at least part of rare earth. but go ahead and spend the extra bread if you want.
do you think my organic grow needs a corporation to break down what is in the soil? i hired microbes to do it
But that's just my opinion. I'm going to try the Rare Earth, went to the shop but they had to order it. It's only like $8.65 for a tub of it, so it's already super cheap.
WhiteWilly
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I've used the Dutchmaster and the Gro-tec Silica additives. I swear by them. Helps prevent pests and gives amazing branch strength for holding up my huge buds.
MatanuskaValley
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I am not sure if I already said this but I am using silica blast as of two days ago. I subscribed and will post here if I see a big difference.
d.c. beard
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Sweet, that's what we need!
riddleme
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Here is link to my research on silica to share with you (notice a link to this thread)
https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/316301-calling-all-noob-growers-5.html#post4021272
Hope it helps
https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/316301-calling-all-noob-growers-5.html#post4021272
Hope it helps
orgnlmrwiggles
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i used 2ml of rhino skin for 1 gallon of water since i couldn't find an answer and no one answered me on here. hopefully i didnt kill my only two plants that were vegged for 3 months and half way through flowering...Rare earth is killer. I add oxycal bat guano and wormcastings. I also water with Pureblendpro bloom, AN three part, topload,rhinoskin,diamond nectar,hydroboost(wk3,4) then koolbloom(wk6,7) Then flush for ten days.
The stems are so thick when chop chop time is ready. Topload is like bushmaster.
The silca is for the plants that take alot of stress. Humic acid makes the nutrients more available in the growing medium.
It says not to use Rhinoskin past week 6.
I think they are tough enough after that.
Rhinoskin is very potent. It says 2mill per litre but i say 1 tablespoon per 25 gallons. Maybe two if your plants are stress.