single cola plants?

holmes said:

i was wondering, if building a 4x4 frame large enough to house 16 5gallons, and using it as a flood and drain. how large a res would you need?

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Well, math says 4ftx4ftx2ft=32 cubic feet. How many gallons are in a cubic foot... And you'll have your answer. I could convert it for you but I'm lazy. Google "conversion gallon cubic foot"

On the other hand, 5 gal buckets are a bit overkill in my opinion for a flood and drain. 1.5 gal pots work well.

Hydro is different.

I'm going to try out some DWC buckets, I know them as bubble buckets.

It's just a lid with a net pot in the middle, that you put on a 5gal bucket, add an airstone in the bottom, fill with water, and put some expanded clay in the net pot. Bubbling water it all, the roots grow in the water. I've seen some impressive results using this method, better than a drip setup in my opinion.

Thundercat said:

I see, just curious, I'm sure it was a great 4/20. Wow 60ish, what was total yield?

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I worked my ass off that 420. If trimming fan leaves and hanging plants sounds like a fun 420...

Total yield was a little over 4 1/2 pounds on 4 600W lights.

is it your experience that single cola is better, cuase i would want to try to fit at least 3 more
how long does each watering last you?

If you're doing a revolving cycle, and circulation new plants in from clone as soon as you harvest, definately doing single colas is more productive.

Vegging out plants in the bloom room is a waste of time.

If you have a seperate room where you can veg out your plants, go for it, but I've found that it's ultimately down to you square feet and light coverage is what decides the yield.

I water a third of a gallon of nutrients every other day, and do a light feeding flush of a half gallon once a week. My soil mix is really airy, so it doesn't take much water to thouroughly run through and out the bottom. And it stays in the good balance of not to wet and not dry. Like a wrung out sponge.

Lots of perlite and some vermiculite.

i have a bubble bucket witch i built , and wow,,, the roots just explode in no time,
cant go wrong!

good choice!!

mr.marks, are you familiar with bio buckets, its dwc with a slight twist, you might enjoy that.

arent they called Hempy Buckets or something?

Here's some pics from today. All the plants doing great. I started adding the mollasses again. Crystals covering leaves now. Oldest plant is 4 weeks into flower. All 25 progressing about the same.

Opinions?

-The Dude

P.s- This thread is intended to be a good resource for those looking for information on single cola plants. As there aren't currently many threads on this. Please try to keep it as such. This way someone can do their research without reading pages that don't pertain to their grow. Chatting can be done through messaging and there are hydro forums that would be a better resource for you.

By the way, I added 2 cheap co2 mixtures. yeast, sugar, water in a 2-liter. Anyone used a co2 meter with this method. Anyone know the effectiveness of this method?
I has wanting to get somethis for next grow, but can't seem to find something, other than this, that would be ideal for a tight closet scrog/sog with only 12 plants. Any ideas?

Mr. Marks, have you heard of anyone using a V or crater shaped scrog screen? I'm wondering why you can't get a little more space and provide a little extra Veg time this way. I thought for a closet it would be the best use of space and light. Any ideas on how drastic an angle the "V" could form before reducing light penetration to the bottom of the "V"? Would it be ideal to somehow place SOG plants in this formation you think? Does that makes sense?

Love, Peace, and Chicken Grease
-El Duderino

i personally dont understand it either, it seems that the plants at the very top and far left or right, as well as the bottom part of the v, dont receive the quality of light that you would want to hit them.
the only benefit i see is that each row has more leg room, as opposed to having them all laid out on the floor.

Not that much of a V. I mean a slight dome type of thing. With proper ventilation, I don't see why the light can't be lowered. I would think that puts the plants that are on the far end closer to the light by raising them.

I made a quick crude drawling to illustrate my closet idea. Mothers would be housed elsewhere. Black vinyl would prevent light leaks from clone cab.

Assuming you had 9-10 vertical feet to use, would this be a benefit? How drastic could the V be if using say a cool tube so there's no need for a bulky reflector. Just Mylar coated walls. Opinions?

-His Royal Dudeness

As long as you have a hood for your light, I wouldn't worry about shaping the screen. It might be more a pain in the ass than you think... Just build a removable frame the size of the inside of the closet, support it in the four corners. Remember, keep it simple. anytime you start putting boxes inside of boxes... You run into problems. I'm personally completely against the whole grow cabinet idea... If you have a light, and 4 square feet in the corner of any room, you're set. I'd like to have a couple extra lights set up for my living room, how cool would it be to have pot growing all over your house... Sorry for the off topic banter, I'm baked.

hey single cola guys!! lol wondering if super cropping can be done at later flowering stage, say : 4weeks?

peace,,,

I'm ALWAYS baked! So I feel ya. I do have lots of space in the house. But my wife and daughter live here too. I need my weed but not trafficking charges. I'd like to go commercial and do some outdoor as well as indoor. Hense the move to Wyoming. Probably a year or so off though. We're saving. Hense the new setup. Need to sell some for move money.

Your right though. Marijuana should not be a crime. I almost hope I have to go to court for growing. Not really. But it would be nice to be able to voice my opinions into public record. I'll fight the charges to the Supreme Court. Someone needs to! The federal Government states, "No accepted medical use for Marijuana" as the reason behind the current legislation. Yet 13 states now have state-wide medical marijuana legalization. Last time Congress looked into rescheduling Marijuana was in 93'. When no states had legalized it. Congress also said Marijuana legislation should be left up to the States. Catch 22.

So, I see a very close future where you can grow without being a "Criminal Mastermind". Or a, "Drug Dealer". Please if you get arrested, FIGHT IT! Even a stem is worth fighting. State your case. MARIJUANA IS NOT A DRUG!

How's that for a stoned rant? Mr. Marks, what's your opinions on the plants? Anything similar to your SOG grows?

-Dude'r

I Just did at week 2. Worked fine!!!

-Dude

Yeah, but at week 4 the stretching has pretty much stopped, I've never had to pinch after the second week. I have, however, done it in late flowering, to bend a bud over that's getting too close to the light, it still works fine.

Yeah, I think it's my right to grow my own. It's just a plant.

Live free or die

I just moved from New Hampshire about 2 years ago, and Live free or die; Is the state motto. I don't see the big deal. I think Marijuana should be added to the endangered species list. This way distroying a marijuana plant would be a Federal offense. It is essentially endangered. Not many places in the world does Marijuana still grow wildly. It used to cover the U.S. Midwest, naturally! But, just like the native American's; We destoryed this beautiful NATIVE plant.

I did some math on the slanted Scrog idea last night. If I'm correct. In a 4 foot long screen. If each end is raised only a foot. It gives you a full extra foot of screen space. 1/2 a foot on each side. You don't think the extra space would be enough benefit to warrant the hassle it would be? I don't know myself. I'll have to start a new thread on it I think.

Thanks all
-Dude'r

MrHowardMarks said:

Yeah, but at week 4 the stretching has pretty much stopped, I've never had to pinch after the second week. I have, however, done it in late flowering, to bend a bud over that's getting too close to the light, it still works fine.

Yeah, I think it's my right to grow my own. It's just a plant.

Live free or die

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so you topped at 2 weeks of flowering,how did it turn out im about to try that.it sounds like an idea worth doing.

Don't top in flower! He's talking suppercropping. Big Difference. Your not removing the top, just pinching the stem. In order to facilitate a rush of growth.

Here's some more pics of the girls today. Looking good. Smells Fucking Dank!!! Plants entering week 4 are starting to fill out nicely. My girls finally put some clothes on. Suppercropping worked out nicely. No real difference yet in growth. Didn't accelerate lower branch growth much either. But plants rebounded like it was nothing. We'll see on the 2 topped plant if the suppercropped cola ends up bigger.

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The math behind the idea. Would the added foot be worth it?

-dude