i need this thread for support! I in middle of first grow and am doing the same thing you are doing. I boggled a plant inot life from a seed a nd went to 12 and 12 prety much right away. as soon as i leatned there was such thing as a light cycle. lol, i was he nub of nubs. i even bought a 30 dollar light panel. i now read this site every day non stop lol. i grow info addict. now i got a 400 hps 4x4x6.5 tent, vented hood and a veg cab. any way i made 5 succeful clones in flower and they went 2 to 12 and 12 again and 2 to veg 24/0. these clones are doing awesome. the 12/12 clone are as big as the mother and the veggers are thick, they gonna be future donators for either a 10 site aero i built or a 3x3 ebb sustem i might buy. the aero pump comes todau and of it good enuf they go aero and if not its a ebb system. i totally forgot bout using 2 liter bottles as pots, they better in ebb tray i think than the square pots. more space usage. ty! i using cfls and only 2 for veg so far and am settling on a big cfl, those ones that = 500 watt 9k lumens on ebay, unless thye are bunk. i will keep a mother N.L. and 15 clones in veg can to root them. thenthey go to system. i dont know to veg or 12/12 right away, i looking at these generic eed clone i have to work with until my nl gets here next week. i will post them in my next post i gotta switch comps. mna smell killing me! i gotta diy!> P.s my big girl i pollinated thinking it was the best idea in the long run for a first grow. i then realised how easy cloning is in dwc cloner i diyd. Sorry about lenght but i brewed some french press and jsut took my morphine, oxy, tram, cocktail and i get a little excited. but i will def post or read howver yu likr your thread, oh yeah! i semi, i a nub, lollipopped one of my clones in 12/12 to compare to the siter in 12/12 and will watch the growth, man these 12/12 clones grow fast. aslo 12/12 cloned need some week or so to revert back to veg. my veg clones were barely shoots but i noticed they actually developed female sex signs even tho when cut the mother had none. interesting my veg clones show more bud sited than 12/12 so far but i think that the clone is just special not a phenoma to consider anything but random. To lollipo i cut all the side branchs and left the fan leaves. pics coming dotn laugh.