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RastaCro

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Hy guys.. Few questions again.. My plants are 7 inches some of them,some of smaller,but bushier,i guess indica dominant (bag seeds) .. 2 of them a bit burned from N fertilizer but i flushed them,i hope it will be alright :)

I found a site that is very sunny,but only rocks are there.. I think that solution can be buckets.. plains or heli's never fly around here,only in case of conflagration.. i have 8 buckets that are 25 liters ( 6,6 gallons) .. Is that enough for growing some buds? One plant per bucket.. water source is not a problem,fertilizing also is not a problem..for soil I planned using mix of: nature soil where tomatoes,oranges etc grow. , I have plenty of cow,chicken and rabbit manure,some amounts of potting soil,building sand.. if anyone can tell me how to mix that i will be very thankful :)


That's my only hope for growing becouse it's rocky terrain here,and depper in "woods" where I can grow,poisonus snakes live.
 

jpockets420

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sounds good to me. Personally I would take the time to give the buckets some camoflauge paint to hide them more. Plants in buckets stick out like a sore thumb. I like to stretch mine out to a 100 yard path with plants every 10 feet or so and an irrigation line running the whole path next to the plants. I guess if its as secluded as you say you should be fine though. Plan on wanting to camp out there near harvest time though lol. I tried something new this year. I wanted to grow out doors but I wanted to do something different. So I put a female clone in a 5 gallon bucket, found me a tall climbable tree with a nice dense canopy. First I climbed the tree to the top and brought a rope with me, made a crude pulley system and pulled the bucket to the top of the canopy, tied it off and presto..talk about stealth. I could populate every tree in the forest with plants at the top and nobody would know lol. Very little bugs, plenty of fresh air, plenty of moisture and plenty of sunlight!
 

RastaCro

Member
Well security is not a problem,but i will camo my buckets for sure.. other things i want to know.. here's very dry and rains start here somewhere in september.. i don't want to get root bound becouse the weather here is great for growing..very long season.. is it possible they get root bound? And please answer how to mix the soil with what I have?.. I will post photos of my plants today,so you can tell me what do you think.. they will go straight from about 0.25 and 0.5 gallon cups,to 6.6 gallon buckets..and I am planning to do lst and topping,should i do just one methode or both to increase yield? I found that very important to do becouse limited root system will affect on smaller yield ( not only that will decrease yield but i can affect on other things ).
 

RastaCro

Member
Here are some pictures of my plants,hopefully girls :D i figured that i burned pretty 2 of them,and the biggest only felt a bit.. but I wonder what are some spots on the leaves.. you will see now so any advice how to get rid of burning,is welcome.. i flushed them pretty two times..
Burned ones : Plant 1- IMAG0184.jpg Plant 2 - IMAG0187.jpg Plant 3 - IMAG0189.jpg
The last plant is the biggest one,and she is just a bit burned on tips (on the front where is pretty yellow is scratch from other plant,not nute burning) but I flushed her too,just once,and I guess she is going to be fine :)

Other pics: IMAG0190.jpg Indica looking plant :) IMAG0191.jpg IMAG0192.jpg Other plants: IMAG0195.jpg
 

RastaCro

Member
Come on guys,251 views and only 1 reply that doesn't answer my questions.. I need help,and my opinion is that it's not that hard to spent 2 mins here,and help a man in need XD
 

melungeonman

Active Member
I love jpockets idea so much i use it myself, I use hanging coco fiber pots. no pulley I dont have the happy scene of irrigation in one patch, so I take a four wheler for a ride with a hand pumped ortho bottle and sprayer full of water. I have a 6ft extension that I attach when I pull up on a plant. This also keeps the deer outa them, and hikers never look up. They are to busy throwing granola wrappers on the ground. Also, as a kicker magpies..... they leave magpie shit in the pot hella cool free fert. Terestrial insects are kept to a min and song birds eat the ones that climb cool ay what. Also you babies do look a touch bunt with what looks like good recovery, They'll do fine.
 

melungeonman

Active Member
This appears to be a very mild burn, you can taste the water coming out of the bottom next time you water, to see how well you did with your flush. My guess is. There wasn't a huge overdose problem, and you have it well in hand. After any burn and subsequent flush. Wait a week to let it compleatly dry out, then, give it a de-clorinated, unsulfered molassas tonic. Simply 1 teaspoon in a gal of water. (declorinated) . This helps breakdown what you didn't flush out. Your plant will utillize this, and in essance, is the first feeding after a burn. Once again, wait 1-2 week depending on the severity. The next week just water. After two weeks you can further scrutinize your plants, looking for sighns of need. Its always easyier to give your plants what they need, as they need it, than try to remove what they don't.
 

melungeonman

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If security is not an issue bigger is beter for any root system. They will do well in 15 gal nursury tree pots. Ive got some big clonemothers in 40 gal rubermade garbage cans. Season does dictate root growth, as well as strain and soil nutriants. If your not shure what you will end up with, bieng bag seed, experimental grow is what your doing. This means preventitve mesures are required. Add micro nutes from the get go outdoor plants use these up, plus at the onset you won't have to wonder what its lacking,preventitive.....
Use large, mabey even larger than you know you will need pots , At the end of harvest, you can check the roots so you will know what to expect next time. These bag seed plants are your test plants. Clone everything before they go into bloom. After culling your males dispose of the corisponding clone. This is where labeling is crucial. If you end up with a "honey" now you have a fem clone mother growing in your clone cabinet, or dome, whatever, ya got her genetics, and the benifits of all that.
 

RastaCro

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I consider growing only in 6.6 gal. becouse I have them,and 15 gall buckets or cans are here around 40 bucks at least,so that would be 320 bucks for pots only.. i cannot let the roots get "out" of the can,becouse they are going to be placed on stones so.. Can you please tell me in % how should I mix my soil.. I have: rabbit,cow and chicken manure,some potting soil,very good nature soil near my house ? One of my friends tell me that burnings spread easily on sun,and that would be good if I mist them 2-3 times a day,and keep them in shade.. that's how he do with his vegetables when burned.. (i told him that strawberries burned xD ) .. thank you for your help,but I will do only 1 or 2 plants (if even that much) on trees,becouse only tree's on spot are old olives surrounded by dense vegetation.. big stones are cracked in some spots so i planed to put bucket in it,and cover it a bit with some branches etc,just to be sure.. and i think in stones the bucket will be a bit colder than in direct sunlight.. plant with full sun,and bucket with protection :) and one question more.. in lack of buckets ( if I break any) can I use 50 liter (13.5 gal) trash bags,but like I put 5-6 one in another to prevent ripping.. idk,but seems to me like not bad idea :/
 

melungeonman

Active Member
You can bag soil, put some drainage holes in it, I'm in the thinking around boulders, your ambient temp may a be a little warmer than on the ground. Sounds like you have a good plan and your energys are bieng put to good use. I like to corrispond with growers, who plan ahead a little, instead of diving in not knowing how deep it is. With this you can eliminate many problems just by looking forward at the unseen. prevention is key expecially outdoors.
 

melungeonman

Active Member
Hemp or reg gunny sacks are also an option, as is a old pickle bucket, talk to someone out the back door of a hamburger joint, bet they give ya one. An holy cow I can't believe they wnt that for a plastic desposible nursury pot. We have several landscapeing nursurys in this area mine included. I sell used 3 gal nursury pots for .25 cents with a purchase I give them away. 15 gal, used we sell them .75 cents. Call one of these nursurys and see if they will let you pick their discard pile. The ones that may get a little crack or something we pile them and send them to re-cycler. Try this approch and see if you get somewhere with it. These really shouldn't cost you that much,and last for years. I would add perolite to bagged potting soil, your admendments are a snap you have poultry droppings these, like gauno are good rootbuilders and bloom food. Pick up a bag of worm castings, add this to your soil. As for shade, Mj loves lots and lots of light. misting is all fine, but I wouldn't, just put them in a sunny place with a drink and some good well prepped soil. Natural soil is awsome. Many times with rich natural soil, you won't need any "chem" nutes at all, other than what that soil and amendmets provide. Then for bloom a couple doses of bucket -bubbled guanno or poultry tea.
Topping: I never top an un know strain, I like to see the charachteristics of a strain, before I try to manipulate it. The first plants, grow them to find out what their qualities are, You may have a strain that produces more weight if it is un-topped, If you plan to start a clone program and re-produce all fems, from your original fem plant. Take a couple cuts and root them, from there if the strain is awsome, you have a clone mother and a veg plant. This speeds up the whole process, because all clones carry the age and maturity of the original. Meaning less veg time. This makes it easyier to control size and girth. Its ready to bloom as soon as you deem it large enough.
 

RastaCro

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Well I am very creative,and I love seeing my creativity at work :D trash bags are cheap,and i think it's good idea,becouse it's cheap,you can place it everywhere you want,and they are pretty big.. 13.5 gallons are not small for root development.. only hard thing is filling the bags with soil,becouse i will need to climb twice with 25 kg on my back,and the terrain is not easy + snake danger.. and that's for one bag.. i guess i will do 4 bag,4 buckets.. it is going to be pretty hard work,but i hope it is going to pay off.. i need to bring 300 kilo's of soil xD without bag methode i would save 100 kilo's of soil,but I will see what am I going to decide.. and after replanting to buckets or bags,I am planning to spray with water that has mixed peppers,garlic and onion in it to try prevent bugs.. i will spray plants,buckets and a bit stone around buckets,just to keep of pests .. i also have 2 plants planted in ground on other spot,but that spot is experimental,not so remote,but still pretty secure.. and one of my best smelling plants was half eaten just a day after planting.. she is quiet well now,and the other just has one small "piercing" on a leaf.. how is possible that my plants are 4-7 inches,4 node developing,and some of them already smell (when you smell them) like undried weed?
 

RastaCro

Member
I haven't seen your other post,sorry.. for soil,I was planning to mix it this way.. Natural soil 50%,potting soil (used for vegetables,etc) 10%,aged cow manure 20%,5% chicken manure becouse it's strong,and can couse burnings,5% of sand for drain,but not to much becouse I will need much water here,and 10% maybe more for natural soil,or for rabbit manure.. i think this is good becouse manures are there,not to much to prevent nutrient lock or burnings...how can I add magnesium,calcium etc. in natural way?
 

RastaCro

Member
I just cannot belive this.. I was visiting my plants,and the burned ones are almost definitely totaly burned!!! I am shocked,becouse i flushed twice.. 2 of them shown small signs of burns,but today these 2 were having just small signs too -.- I am very stressed now,becouse if i lost 4 plants,I will end up with 4 bag seed plants,and can only pray to God that even one of them is female.. My nerves are pulsing,and I almost threw them away,but I flushed even once more,so everything can go to holy f***ing God.. I did it only becouse i saw small leaves on nodes are green,and maybe they can save the situation,but I doubt that.. :(
 

RastaCro

Member
So the plants burned more.. but I made something that could help.. I took plants out the pot,and I put the rootball in river,so only remaining earth was small part that roots held.. I put them in a new dirt,non fertilized one.. i hope that will help,becouse the roots can develope now in safe ground :)) I know for transplanting shock,but it's better to slow down the plant,than to lose 5 plants.. If it's bad idea,tell me ..
 
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