skinny clawlike leaves have pics help is appreiciated
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Canibitual
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Canibitual
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Your error not mine...
The Big Plant got Lots of N
The Small Plant Didn't Get as much...
Geeze...
also... I think I mentioned it, but there are 16 pots 32 plants per light ... and that these single pots represent their prospective tables..., in case you think that this is a difference between just two plants...
doniawon
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plants want different nutes in different stages of growth obviously.. when you instantly swicth the light cycle in a sog type set up, the switch to bloom from the photoperiod would insight a hormone change that would cause the plant to want different nutrient values.
if you veg your plants .. they are going to want/need Nitrogen in a higher ranges than PK for healthy veg growth. thats what the plant likes in this stage?. too much N will turn the leaves a dark green. also too much N will cause stunted growth in bloom if not fixed.
if you veg your plants .. they are going to want/need Nitrogen in a higher ranges than PK for healthy veg growth. thats what the plant likes in this stage?. too much N will turn the leaves a dark green. also too much N will cause stunted growth in bloom if not fixed.
dimebag87
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plant on the right got 900 ppm of snake oil as appose to the one the left that got 700 ppm of snake oil plus 200 ppm of cal blag. you have confused yourself mate. by your reckoning one of them got 200 ppm less bloom feed than the other. has the penny dropped yet?
Canibitual
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N Delays flowering....
That means that if you have a 8 week strain,
and you give it too much N up to say week 5,
The Plant will continue to grow to week 5,
by continueing to Grow too long... the plant will be severly reduced (stunted) in it's flower production
Once the plant has decided (or been forced) to flower (pistols growing), most of the excess N will be sent into building cell walls and leaf production (leaves already on plant get bigger), This is called "the stretch".... which can be elimiated if you cut out the N and feed a heavy PK (to induce immediate flowering) just prior to the height you want it to stop at...
Canibitual
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Look up the INGREDIENTS on the Department of Agreculture Website... IT AIN'T SNAKE OIL... it's clearly marked... as it has to be for sale in the USA...
dimebag87
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some people use grow nutrients from start to finish with great results.
doniawon
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what?...............i dunno you sure about this one?
Canibitual
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absolute sure...
hotrodharley
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Agree about the N and wondering why he cut them off as well? Some should stick to buying with such low street prices around.
Canibitual
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you must be higher than a kite... and can't read for shit... I said
I did not say that it grows more leaves...
shagalicious
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when you give your plants that calmag they don't need, it offsets your plants ability to properly use nitrogen, causing a lightening of your leaf color
then you yake away the calcium and the plant properly uses the nitrogen already available, darkening your color and broadening your leaves - should also help with the stacking of nodes
calcium overdose locks out nitrogen
Canibitual
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[h=3]Calcium[/h]Calcium plays an important role in maintaining cell integrity and membrane permeability.
Calcium Deficiency
Young leaves are affected first and become small and distorted or chlorotic with irregular margins, spotting or necrotic areas. Bud development is inhibited, blossom end rot and internal decay may also occur and root may be under developed or die back. Deficiency will cause root tip die-back, leaf tip curl and marginal necrosis and chlorosis primarily in younger leaves. Symptoms: young leaves develop chlorosis and distortion such as crinkling, dwarfing, developing a strap-like shape, shoots stop growing and thicken.
Calcium Toxicity
Difficult to distinguish visually. May precipitate with sulfur in solution and cause clouding or residue in tank. Excess calcium may produce deficiencies in magnesium and potassium
http://www.greenmanspage.com/guides/plant_abuse.html
dimebag87
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exactly. why do they need the cal mag? seems to be something eveyone is buying into on here. save your money.
Canibitual
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Calcium
Calcium plays an important role in maintaining cell integrity and membrane permeability.
Calcium Deficiency
Young leaves are affected first and become small and distorted or chlorotic with irregular margins, spotting or necrotic areas. Bud development is inhibited, blossom end rot and internal decay may also occur and root may be under developed or die back. Deficiency will cause root tip die-back, leaf tip curl and marginal necrosis and chlorosis primarily in younger leaves. Symptoms: young leaves develop chlorosis and distortion such as crinkling, dwarfing, developing a strap-like shape, shoots stop growing and thicken.
Calcium Toxicity
Difficult to distinguish visually. May precipitate with sulfur in solution and cause clouding or residue in tank. Excess calcium may produce deficiencies in magnesium and potassium
http://www.greenmanspage.com/guides/plant_abuse.html
Too much potassium and nitrogen will lock out calcium
dozens of sources for that one...
http://www.growgreenerguru.com/2012/03/nitrogen-n/
http://www.kingstoncompassion.org/horticulture/nutrients/nitrogen-n/
I use it because I need it... or... cause I have it...
actually, I'd rather buy Calcium Nitrate instead, since it's cheaper....
I am saveing my money, since I'm buying a 1 part bloom food for flowering, and using very little calmag to offset the ratio for early growth... (similar to lucas formula)