Slight problem with ppms or not?
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MaloMAL
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Have you at any moment added water to your buckets ? If at any point you topped the buckets off with water you dilute the substance. In other words, your drop your PPMs. If you started with 300 and added Zero water and your PPMs are stable, your plants could be supplementing from the NUTRIENTS(lower ppm). Also the meter your using.... ? It could be that the meter is giving you another reading than before. It is best to get a PPM meter worth your hard work. If your meters great and your exercising its use properly, your plants are just feeding. It's a good thing. I'd say wait a bit before feeding. Try to get the PPMs to match almost nearly what the water started with before using nutes. EXAMPLE: my ppm READ 89 (tap water) after nutes it goes up. As the plants feeds the PPM drops, as the water reduces and the PPM increases, plants are drinking more WATER than feeding NUTRIENTS, I WATER TOP off, wait, PPM check, WATER, wait, PPM check, REPEAT if necessary , then NUTRIENT top off, I always check the PPM in between adding WATER to assure it's near where it started. It gives me an idea where the plant is as far as nutrients and when it's necessary to feed. I would post a photo but no uploads allowed 
OldMedUser
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Doesn't look like deficiency symptom yet and if it's just a bottom leaf they often get damage like that just from all the moisture they are exposed to so close to the bottom. You aren't spraying them are you?
I just figured with 5 pails you had some sort of RDWC system going. Taking care of 5 separate pails is a lot of work when you could have all 5 growing in one Rubbermaid tub. I've had up to 16 plants growing in one tub but likely would have yielded just as much with 5 or 6. I have one tub that has 12 spots for SoG type growing but mostly 4 - 6 hole tubs.
How are your nute temps? I used to use peroxide for the first 10 years or so then made a chiller out of a water cooler and dropped the peroxide. I've never used products like HydroGuard or beneficial bacteria so can't advise about that.
Keep an eye on the leaves and if it starts showing up further up the plant then something needs to be done about it. About the only thing that needs desperate action is root rot as that can kill everything in a day or two. That's one benefit to having separate pails like you do. If one gets rot you don't lose the whole crop.
urbanfarmerz
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No like a mood I never once topped up smh temps are 68 in the RezHave you at any moment added water to your buckets ? If at any point you topped the buckets off with water you dilute the substance. In other words, your drop your PPMs. If you started with 300 and added Zero water and your PPMs are stable, your plants could be supplementing from the NUTRIENTS(lower ppm). Also the meter your using.... ? It could be that the meter is giving you another reading than before. It is best to get a PPM meter worth your hard work. If your meters great and your exercising its use properly, your plants are just feeding. It's a good thing. I'd say wait a bit before feeding. Try to get the PPMs to match almost nearly what the water started with before using nutes. EXAMPLE: my ppm READ 89 (tap water) after nutes it goes up. As the plants feeds the PPM drops, as the water reduces and the PPM increases, plants are drinking more WATER than feeding NUTRIENTS, I WATER TOP off, wait, PPM check, WATER, wait, PPM check, REPEAT if necessary , then NUTRIENT top off, I always check the PPM in between adding WATER to assure it's near where it started. It gives me an idea where the plant is as far as nutrients and when it's necessary to feed. I would post a photo but no uploads allowed
urbanfarmerz
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Will do thank you just trying to dial in why they are drooping thinking that since there getting taller might be some wind abuseDoesn't look like deficiency symptom yet and if it's just a bottom leaf they often get damage like that just from all the moisture they are exposed to so close to the bottom. You aren't spraying them are you?
I just figured with 5 pails you had some sort of RDWC system going. Taking care of 5 separate pails is a lot of work when you could have all 5 growing in one Rubbermaid tub. I've had up to 16 plants growing in one tub but likely would have yielded just as much with 5 or 6. I have one tub that has 12 spots for SoG type growing but mostly 4 - 6 hole tubs.
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How are your nute temps? I used to use peroxide for the first 10 years or so then made a chiller out of a water cooler and dropped the peroxide. I've never used products like HydroGuard or beneficial bacteria so can't advise about that.
Keep an eye on the leaves and if it starts showing up further up the plant then something needs to be done about it. About the only thing that needs desperate action is root rot as that can kill everything in a day or two. That's one benefit to having separate pails like you do. If one gets rot you don't lose the whole crop.
urbanfarmerz
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Yea temps are only 68-69 roots are healthy new growth everyday I do have a black 18gal I did already set up with 6 ,3 in net pots to late to transfer unless I buy a new lid and start 2 crititical cush FEMs cut tons of clones and fill up my 18 gal and yea now thinking of it I did spray with Rez water after I read that it could burn the plants like a dumbass that's what I did I sprayed them smhDoesn't look like deficiency symptom yet and if it's just a bottom leaf they often get damage like that just from all the moisture they are exposed to so close to the bottom. You aren't spraying them are you?
I just figured with 5 pails you had some sort of RDWC system going. Taking care of 5 separate pails is a lot of work when you could have all 5 growing in one Rubbermaid tub. I've had up to 16 plants growing in one tub but likely would have yielded just as much with 5 or 6. I have one tub that has 12 spots for SoG type growing but mostly 4 - 6 hole tubs.
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How are your nute temps? I used to use peroxide for the first 10 years or so then made a chiller out of a water cooler and dropped the peroxide. I've never used products like HydroGuard or beneficial bacteria so can't advise about that.
Keep an eye on the leaves and if it starts showing up further up the plant then something needs to be done about it. About the only thing that needs desperate action is root rot as that can kill everything in a day or two. That's one benefit to having separate pails like you do. If one gets rot you don't lose the whole crop.
OldMedUser
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You got some side branches on that one pic that are right down in the hydroton almost and those should probably be snipped off leaving a bit of a stub. Keep an eye on them at least as they could get mildew or fungus growing on them pretty easy and have it spread.
Temps are pretty good. Once they get over 70 it gets easier for bad bacteria to get going in the roots but lots of air bubbles for O2 helps keep that from happening. If the plant has dense growth blocking air flow around the bottom of the plant it should be removed. Once the plant gets bigger you'll never miss it.
Good air circulation is critical but you don't want them getting wind burn.
A light fluttering of the leaves with an oscillating fan is good enough. I just grab the plants and shake the hell out of them to toughen up the stems and branches. I also start giving my plants silica from the small seedling stage on as that helps to strengthen the stems and make them tougher all over to fend off bugs and disease. I use Rhino Skin from AN as it works well with the AN nutes but can also be used with any other nutes. pH goes up to around 10 using no-name potassium silicate but only about 8.5 using the Rhino Skin and goes down once the pH Perfect nutes are added after.
I don't spray anything unless I have to and I rarely have to.
Temps are pretty good. Once they get over 70 it gets easier for bad bacteria to get going in the roots but lots of air bubbles for O2 helps keep that from happening. If the plant has dense growth blocking air flow around the bottom of the plant it should be removed. Once the plant gets bigger you'll never miss it.
Good air circulation is critical but you don't want them getting wind burn.
A light fluttering of the leaves with an oscillating fan is good enough. I just grab the plants and shake the hell out of them to toughen up the stems and branches. I also start giving my plants silica from the small seedling stage on as that helps to strengthen the stems and make them tougher all over to fend off bugs and disease. I use Rhino Skin from AN as it works well with the AN nutes but can also be used with any other nutes. pH goes up to around 10 using no-name potassium silicate but only about 8.5 using the Rhino Skin and goes down once the pH Perfect nutes are added after.I don't spray anything unless I have to and I rarely have to.
MaloMAL
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I have roots for days and the plant is doing great under my DWC. The PPM of the silver kush read 276PPM last feed was 9 days ago. I'll be feeding this Wednesday. Try to get it lower if you can. I keep my babies around 63-67F... I use ICE PROBES though so idk buddy. Good luck your doing great. Keep asking, it's what helped me grow as person and as a grower!!!
MaloMAL
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I have a a critical kush I keep as a mother
urbanfarmerz
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@OldMedUser @MaloMAL this is what I came home to today all ate but spots are getting worse and some are drooping am I still underfeeding ? They hardly drank but some ppms dropped over 40 the freeze berry in the middle back is at 340 ppm and is loving it the one with spots is at 275 was at 350 last night but spots are progressing thanks in advance for the help
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Nice could you help with what I'm experiencing ?
urbanfarmerz
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Also I have same meter it's a 500 conversion right ?
MaloMAL
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Honestly the photos in reply were me subliminally asking you, if in right about where he is and he's facing issues must he be leaving some information out lol.
Man what are your temps ?
What is your pH CURRENLTY ?
Roots ? Photos would help !
What was the last exact amount of everything you last added ? <nutrients NAMES AND AMOUNTS to help determine issue !
urbanfarmerz
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oh i gotha ya i would say that they was was lacking mag or cal maybe both im a newbie take it easy on meHonestly the photos in reply were me subliminally asking you, if in right about where he is and he's facing issues must he be leaving some information out lol.
Man what are your temps ?
What is your pH CURRENLTY ?
Roots ? Photos would help !
What was the last exact amount of everything you last added ? <nutrients NAMES AND AMOUNTS to help determine issue !
if this helps
5xAutos
Royal dwarf 275ppms 5.9 ph (bottom right)
Freeze berry 340ppms 6.0ph (top middle )
Big bomb 311ppms 6.0ph (top left)
Pyriimids purple 301 5.9ph (bottom left)
Blue desiel 324 5.9 ph (top right )
Roots are nice and white slightly stained from GH nutes great root growth not brown no slime smells very clean like straight ro
Temps
Res 68
Tent 74 Rh 44
4x4 tent
440cfm exhaust
240cfm intake
What's going on
I have some spots on the two bottom ones witch are royal dwarf and the purple
last i added was .5 micro 1 bloom GH nutes
ro water
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