sf_frankie
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Maybe if lighting strikes the house and there’s a power surge.
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1dude1seed
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As long as we're not going 88mph......
jamesjms123
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ya was thinking hes alot warmer with the HPS light and running 24 hrs and im on 18/6 .so hes got 240 more hrs of light since we started
jamesjms123
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well ill have a 600 watt MH/HPS and to 1500 leds so that should work. GET MY GELATO GROWING
Beehive
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My current conditions on a day you don't know if you want to sweat or feel a chill. AC no worky for shit. My room air temps hit 86°. I didnt want to check the leaf temp. It was only for about 30mins and then the cobs turn off.
Breeder says 65-68 days. Ok, I'll run them that long. Regardless of what amber percentage I'm seeing.
Severed Tongue
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It's kind of sad that LED's adopted this way of naming them....
lusidghost
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Anything lamp that says it's over 650w is instantly suspect.
jamesjms123
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my plants do good under them but cold this time of year and think the heat off the HPS will help. im in a mobile home and it gets 38 deg c in summer so leds are nice in that
sf_frankie
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there isn’t a single legit LED company that pulls that bullshit. It’s not and LED problem, just shitty companies being shitty.
lusidghost
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Well to be fair, before they were making grow lights LEDs were all rated "__w equivalent." Grow lights were the first that I saw to actually go by true watts. I think Spectrum King was the first company I saw doing it.
sf_frankie
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Again, the heat has absolutely nothing to do with it. Go ahead and put a heater in the grow area and watch absolutely nothing change. The reason LED lights have a poor reputation is because of lights like yours and the companies who make and advertise them. Those lights do little more than waste electricity. You can run them alongside your HPS when it arrives for some extra light if you must.
The plants may look fine now while you are in veg but get back to me when you’re in flower so I can say I told you so. There is a reason why your brothers plants are doing so much better despite having 600w of light compared to the “3000w” your lights claim to have. Trust me.
sf_frankie
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True. But that’s cause they light up a room the same way a __w incandescent light would. Vie visible light comparison it makes sense. Originally, companies like Mars would put 300 say 10w diodes on a fixture and then say that it’s a 3000w light despite using some crappy 300w driver and running it at 175w. It’s shady as fuck. These days these shitty Amazon companies just put whatever number they feel like it seems.
It’s a damn shame too because LED grow lights are the future. Since most of the shady companies that are doing it are Chinese then the Chinese sellers get a bad reputation. The reality is, the majority of the worlds electronics are built there and thanks to websites like Alibaba, consumers in the US have direct access to the manufacturers that build them. There are incredible deals to be had and lots of people are missing out.
On the other hand, the shitty reputation keeps prices low so people that have done their research can take advantage of the crazy deals.
A majority of the new LED lights that are hitting the market from established grow equipment companies that had not specialized in lighting in the past as well as new cannabis focused LED companies are getting their lights from the same manufacturers we have direct access to on alibaba. They get the same lights in bulk and have those exact same manufacturers screen print or laser etch their logos on the product and then sell them at a markup of at least 200%.
There are benefits to buying from those companies instead of direct from alibaba like warranties, actual customer support and a higher likelihood of top bin diodes and drivers. But to me, and tons of other folks, it’s not worth paying they 2x, 3x or even 4x markup!
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