Slow Stunted Growth

easylife said:

Man this is a mission. I've just flushed them all once, used about 150 liters of water and the ph is still reading 7.5. I recon it's guna take another 2 flushes. So thats 450 liters of water!!!!!!! It's in an atic and i have to pump all the water into the tolet downstairs. Fuck man!!!! I'm not doing this again.
Let this be a lesson to u all out there! Get your PH right Gezzers!

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7.5 will be o.k. don't fix it if it aint broke. you'll probably make things worse trying to lower it.

is that supposed to be your plant in that pic??coz that same pic is on a different website www.marijuana-seeds.net/thanks-thankyou.htm

no if u read below the pic it will explain.

Now i flushed all the plants a few days ago, they r starting to look abit healthier but still have a magnesium deficency. they r 9-12 inches tall.

My question is should i put them on flower now. or wait till their healthy?

It is better to wait but you can start flowering, im sorry widow to disagree but 7.5 is way to high and is already broke if you saw the pic. even if it wasnt broke would soon be if ph remained at 7.5, i am glad to see things are looking better. Try 1 tablespoon of epsom salts to a gallon of water and use to foliar spray. I use epsom salts in my nute solution always. It is very cheap and works well. I am very glad you took my advice easy your plants will love you for it. Keep up the good work !!!
P.s I must agree flushing sucks

I just thought i'd let u all know that i have found out wot the problem is after several misdiagnosis. have had to make a complete u-turn. The high ph has blocked the plant from getting some trace elements :- Zinc, Iron + Manganese. (Zinc deficency stunts all growth) All i have to do is get some trace mix which contains these elements and add it to my solution.

i have 9 plants i bought from the club for $13 a piece. 4 pure skunk #1 and 5 atomic haze. ive had them since jan 22 under a 400 watt mh and they've only grown to about a foot now and 3 haze plants are maby 7 inches. i think ill flower them at the end of the month. but son of a bitch-over 2 months veg and all my time and effort in getting them to grow and theyre only this big? are they going to flower at this rate as well?
i wish i wouldn't have wasted so much time on these when i could have picked up another $120 worth.
the plants look good they just dont grow.
what are the odds of that happening when dealing with clones?

Yeah i know, ive had a right mission with these little fuckers. Sounds like somthings not right with yours as well man. R the leafs discoloured or anything? This is the shit ive worked out i've got to get.
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hopefuly it works. need to get them on flower. Skint man.

But if you add trace elements and your pH is still too high, the trace elements will STILL be unavailable to your plants, you'll just have more stuff in your solution.

easylife said:

I just thought i'd let u all know that i have found out wot the problem is after several misdiagnosis. have had to make a complete u-turn. The high ph has blocked the plant from getting some trace elements :- Zinc, Iron + Manganese. (Zinc deficency stunts all growth) All i have to do is get some trace mix which contains these elements and add it to my solution.

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shnkrmn said:

But if you add trace elements and your pH is still too high, the trace elements will STILL be unavailable to your plants, you'll just have more stuff in your solution.

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Yes u r quite right. Give the man a round of applause!
I have change the ph 6.5-7.0 now

That's what I'm saying.....Get the PH right and monitor it closely, I only used to use one of those liquid PH testers........ it's deffo worth investing in a digital 1, it's much easier to read

Yeah i'll get 1 tomoz.
If i got it right in the first place this wouldn't ave happend. wot a waste of time and money!!!!!!!!!!! these plants r well pissing me off, feel like just throwing them and starting again, But havn't got the time to now. got to b out of this property in 3 months.
The only reason i got the ph wrong in the first place was coz the bloke down the hydro shop said that the Bio Bizz Organic Nutes, which i'm using, could handle a high ph, so i didn't need to ph the water. Why the fu#k did i listen to him. Fu#king Cunt!!!!!!!!!!!!!

easylife said:

The only reason i got the ph wrong in the first place was coz the bloke down the hydro shop said that the Bio Bizz Organic Nutes, which i'm using, could handle a high ph, so i didn't need to ph the water. Why the fu#k did i listen to him. Fu#king Cunt!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Yep, I laugh my ass off whenever people say "My hydro shop guy said to do this so I know it will work"... Those jackasses are just some stupid fuckheads that are working for minimum wage, thats it! They would be at McDonalds if they wouldn't have landed the shop job. After talking to every one of the employees at my local shop I came to find out they are all just like me, a rookie.