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Coolvibes

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Friday 15th January 2010 10:00h GMT
Checked on the plants this morning they all love their new home, the trays get turned 180 degrees then the four trays get swapped positions clockwise every 6 hours. This is so they all receive the same amount of light throughout the cycle. Remember they love routine so once you have one don’t change it. As for the seedlings next time I will remember to fill pots right to top so you can have them right between your fingers when you turn them upside down. Some of the seedling I planted got dropped covered in soil and stuck to bottom of container. Another tip is even if the seed don’t pop through the soil after 10 days don’t plant another seed. As you might get up one morning and fin 3 seedlings in the same pot like I did. I need to discover the sex as quickly as possible as I only have room for ten plants I have space for two mother plants at friends which should be fine on the windowsill. As long as they stay on 14 plus hours of light a day they will not try to bud until October. Cloning is next step 10 females straight after I crop this one in late May. I stopped watering my seedlings ten have had no water in 48 hours and the other ten 24 no water for 24 hours. As they are still small they don’t need as much water as I have been giving them. I will wait until I see the plants telling me they need water before watering again. Just found out the strain of weed I am growing. El-nino indoor plant 700g yield 8 week to flower which makes this end of March for this grow which is 6 weeks sooner than I thought. As for mother plant a must now I know how bad the strain is (For all you Americans bad means good dam good). Should be 10 – 12 weeks for the clones my god what a bonus?
I am thinking about building a germination station for one male and one female for the El-nino seeds after the mother’s life is up I don’t want o be spending 180E for 5 seeds. So I want to make as many seeds as possible. Just trying to decide whether to cross bread the strain with say purple haze so I get the sweet treats of the haze as well as the smooth taste and high yield of the El-nino. Anybody have some information on this for me maybe some links?
The seedlings are doing very well they have fully recovered from their uprooting and transplanting technique I have yet to master (This felt wrong when I was doing it). I can now see fourth set of leaves on 5 of the El-nino seedlings the rest are on third with forth showing. I do think it takes 24hours plus for seedlings to recover as the first 10 leaf growth was amazing today. I am waiting for them to tell me they need water as 6 litres in 3 days between 20 seedlings and a budding female is strange so much water.
Well it’s nearly time for bush to get some sleep after her usual photo shoot (Well it’s my first baby). I got some weed today that smells so much like bush I took a photo in case someone can identify it. I got bush out of the grow room and she smelt beautiful so I touched one off the leafs my god my fingers are still sticking to the keyboard as I type. The guys are right in this forum a higher temperature at night helps it to produce resin as she stinks and leaves are all tacky.








 

Coolvibes

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I have been keeping a log of water,height,position which i will post next time, allso temperature as i am cloning next time can get them even better with this database
 

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Here is some pics to be going on with
 

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Saturday 16th January 2010 21:00h GMT
Bush looks better by the day 2 weeks left and time to hang her up to dry hundreds of hairs have turned orange smells sweet. All the seedlings got there weekly data recorded today also another 2 litres of water have been used 8 litres in one week on 21 seedlings and one mature budding female just imagine how much water they will drink by the end of the project.
Sunday 17th January 2010 19:00h GMT
Been out all day so after putting the budding female in her sunroom at 08:00h GMT alternated the seedlings positions 10 needed water this morning then left. Came in to turn bush and alternate seedlings and it stunk of skunk sweet smell of my home-grown. Everything rapped up now used another 2 litres of water made some more up got it in the room to warm up they don’t like cold water and seeing my first grow (the lone female) is going so well. I am sure my 10 El-Neno seedlings that will be left after I weed out the males will be good to.
 

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Monday 18th January 2010 17:00h GMT
Seedlings have doubled in size since the last measurement all are healthy and drinking loads. I Made up another two litres of feed last night, making a total of eight litres in seven days. Got another 4 metre squared piece of white reflective plastic sheeting. I put a square over lapping the hatch to the loft and attached it so now no gap what so ever, which is great at night as it looks stealth completely now. I also covered some pipes and a bit of the grow room covered just by a sheet is now covered too. I also retraced the cables round the wall so you cannot see them either. Below is the growth of plant one of twenty-one.
Seeing the growth rate is much the same on all the seedlings I will only post plant ones statistics although if there is any dramatic change I shell post the plants data.
Tuesday 19th January 2010 12:00h GMT
All plants needed watering this morning but decided to wait until tonight so I can see the difference from wanting water and needing it. One of the seedlings leafs got some dry brown spots on it but realized it was the tallest plant and certain positions in the grow room are too close to lights. So I have to keep this seedling on the outside until I raise the lights a bit probably tomorrow night 20:00h GMT when the female is in dark cycle so I have less lights to deal with.
 

Coolvibes

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Wednesday 20th January 2010 14:00h GMT
I discovered the reason plant pots are not clear, the roots of plants hate sunlight and can harm them. With this in mind I had to pull all the containers from my grow room and cover them with black plastic Also added another date to the bar chart above.
 

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I personally have never seen it but it’s about my mate who is haze mad told me about it crossed between purple haze and white widow then made into the low rider strain I even goggled it myself and found obscure references to purple haze being a myth anyways but I know purple haze exists as I have had oz’s of the stuff he has some silver haze going now so I will pop round soon see how they are doing then enquire for us sorry couldn’t be more help .
 

Coolvibes

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Thursday 21st January 2010 17:00h GMT
My lone unknown strain is doing well 35 percent of the pistols have turned orange and some of the lower growth leaves have turned brown and fell off imagine autumn winters coming time to bear fruit well same thing happens in the grow room. The plant has stopped growth and no longer uses the growth leaves all nutriments go to the bud leafs now to encourage bud growth some growers prefer to pull the leaves of as soon as they start turning. All twenty one of the El-neno are doing great growth rate is amazing check yesterdays chart above. I done some research in to carbon dioxide according to science the more carbon dioxide present the more photosynthesis is achieved. I have now a base equations because of the data collected already. So adding carbon dioxide should make the growth rates increase i will know this buy results 6 days after introducing it into the grow room. I found out that by half filling a bottle with water adding the right amounts of baking soda and sugar you get a chemical reaction that produces carbon dioxide this fills the bottle expelling the lighter oxygen. Now put a hole in the cap of the bottle push a straw through don’t let it touch the solution hold it in place with some blue tack or modelling clay. As carbon dioxide will fall downwards after it exits the straw so point the straw into the centre of the plant right at the top this lets the carbon dioxide fall through the leaves. If you’re straw doesn’t reach join two or three together push inside each other and fix with tape. I don’t yet know at this point if this process will work but will have the answer soon.
 

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I took delivery of 90 seeds today 30 Elnino 20 northern lights 20 cheese and 20 random nice to have I am sure they will be put to good use one day stored in cool dark dry place. I just popped up to water the plants when I noticed this sweet smell in the air for some reason 3 of the plants are sticky smelly I could not believe it I had to take them down show the misses but she was as shocked as me back in grow room things move fast with the lights on 24/0 already on 14 litres of water in 9 days. 10 days I will top them 20 days I will put them on 12/12.
 

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Friday 22nd January 2010 21:00h GMT
Today I spent another 1.70 GBP on a container for my weed drying box and some bicarbonate soda for my carbon dioxide experiment. Also needed for the experiment was a straw I used one of them hardened plastic curly straws which I heated up over my burner to straighten. Plastic bottle with lid I used a 355ml shampoo bottle as the lid had a hole same diameter as the straw but you can make one with hot screwdriver. 200 ml of orange juice I used orange as the chemical reaction lasts longer than with more acidic chemicals like vinegar, 5 grams of bicarbonate soda, Small piece of blue tack or modelling clay to hold the straw in place. Do not put the bicarbonate soda into the orange juice until you are in position in the grow room. Measure 200ml of arrange into a measuring jug and tip into container remember to put a line were the level is so refilling is exact and quick Tip in 5 grams of bicarbonate soda in two parts half wait for fizz to go then add rest shake well and screw on lid point the straw towards the top of the plant. This lets the heavier carbon dioxide fall through the leaves and gives the plant the best opportunity to absorb it. The reaction lasts for about 3 hours before bottle needs shaking so I am shaking every 3 hours for 12 of the 24/0 I will do this for a weeks to see the base difference for the 12 hours and work out the extra growth for the other 12 hours I missed. If it is a significant difference in the data I get back I will then make a permanent solution to constant carbon dioxide production at safe levels within the grow room. Below is the last chart pre-carbon dioxide then next chart will show the different growth rate since being introduced to the grow room.
 

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Saturday 23rd January 2010 21:00h GMT
Every plant is doing well, The buds on bush are sticky smelly about two weeks and time to dry her she is only on pure water now and the last week she will have just one good water before I leave her in a dark room for 36 hours. My mate came round with some free plant pots just the right size and black well in Steve good thing is he can get me some more. I made my bud box two computer case fans, one box, 4 bike spokes, coat hanger, hot glue gun. I glued the coat hanger to the top of the box so it could be hung on the backs of doors or in the wardrobe. Then I used the fans as templates and cut the holes out of the box with a hot Stanley knife. The checking the direction of flow I glued the fans in place remember to get the same speed rated fans or you will create negative air flow which may just help the onset of mould as the air will be pushed around the case creating pockets of still air that heat up(Problems badly put together pcs have). Then I bent the spokes to fit across the width of the box and glued them near the top equally spaced apart (this is for the paper clips to hook onto then hook the buds to the paper clips). Then I wired up the transformer to the fans as described before in this grow journal. I used the hot glue gun to seal the wire ends then glued the wires around the lid area to hide them. Now is hanging on the back of the door waiting for the next stage, Carbon filter. Except I am using a baked bean can and a processed pea can they fit inside each other, well I get to that bit next week just for most people drying out is the smelliest time this could eliminate this problem completely.

Sunday 24th January 2010 21:00h GMT

The chart above shows the growth rate for the plant with the added carbon dioxide as its only one set of results I need another two sets to get a fair analysis. The plants had their water today 3 litres between them all the total amount of water used from start to finish must be FL nominal. I will post results at the moment it stands at 20 litres since 12/01/10. It will not be long before my dry box will be needed as my unknown female strain is looking beautiful very sticky and sweet smelling she has me up every morning same time 7 days a week as I have to take her out the grow room as the lights are on 24/0 and as you know she needs her sleep. Today was the first time I needed to raise the lights and check the ph. levels which were perfect at 6.5 it’s looking like a canopy now which makes me smile as I did it all myself and cost me less than 5.00GBP.
 

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Monday 25th January 2010 22:00h GMT
Plants are growing rapidly canopy now I will give them 7 more days as of tomorrow then I will top them I am thinking about topping the taller ones under the second set of nodes making the plants heights all the same don’t know if this is possible so will have to do some research first I have a week so plenty of time. All the plants got a spray today opposed to a good watering as the lights are on 24/0 you have to watch carefully between watering and as there is no drainage holes just 2 inches of clay pebbles I don’t want underground puddle of water forming not good for the plants. I no drainage is a must but I don’t have the heights for it very small grow room 1meter of grow height. It is possible with the correct amount of watering and I have a good system going in fact for my first time things are going far too good! Budding female is top bud for an unknown female species can anyone identify it from the pics. Well that’s it for tonight tomorrow is chart, ph. And carbon dioxide.
 

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Chart above is latest stats concerning the plant with the added carbon dioxide and it must be said it is the plant with the most growth rate in the grow room in fact has gone from Mr Average to the strongest so even without the equations being done you can see carbon dioxide is a must for quicker growth in vegetate state.On my unknown female I felt the need to trim three leafs as they were very brown and about to go I tied some of the other branches out the way to let more light into the centre of the plant. All in all bearing in mind she popped through the soil in October spent 6 weeks in the cold before I put her on 18/6 for 3 weeks then decided to bud her just to see and low and behold a female she has had no nutriments and been fed on tap water only. Guess what fantastic buds nice smell sticky so it just goes to show you don’t need all the hype it may yield better results but is not necessary for a nice smoke as you do each crop you want to improve so each time I do one I will add small things like with my El-neno they get room temp nutriment water there grown in good quality grow compost the ph. Levels are checked weekly and altered when necessary and homemade carbon dioxide has been introduced to grow room on a bigger scale now. Let me tell you that they are doing much better but is more better we will see end of this cycle in march.
 

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Wednesday 27th January 2010 06:00h GMT
Well a website inspired me to write my grow diary’s so now I continue for myself as I cannot be doing with the arguing. Well to fill in my notes the lone female I would say is a few days away from ready 90 per cent retracted and orange sticks very nice. As for the El-Neno I had to top plant 14 as it was 21 cm were as the average height was 12cm so I topped plant 14 in hope the rest will catch up. I used the freshly cut top to make a clone I used no chemicals just planted and watered my little experiment, to see if rooting powder is a must.
Thursday 28th January 2010 06:00h GMT
Well I needed a big change in the grow room as my bud light will soon not be needed for a while (shortly). I hung it in the opposite corner to make it easy for me to take out grow room at night for night cycle. Also I arranged my veg lights better so more room for me and the plants are getting maximum veg light all are very happy. I will make a discussion tonight weather to not feed bush ready for drying out depends if in two days she looks like ready then I will go ahead no water and 36 hours of dark. I also did all the stats for all 21 plants looking impressive check chart for plant 1. The cutting never died and looks healthy.
Friday 29th January 2010 13:00h GMT
Well I put bush in the grow room give the three little containers water as they dry out much quicker than the rest. The clone looks fine leafs pointing to lights. Just put Bush on her dark cycle I did not give her any water that’s 24 hours now as she is not far of cropping now. I will decide tomorrow weather to water or not but looks like 36hours of dark coming her way.

 

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Saturday 30h January 2010 19:00h GMT
The plants are a pure canopy and very difficult to count the leaves so after today know leaf count as it is too time consuming al the plants seem to be levelling out. Bush she has just been cropped sticky buds in fact a couple of the buds were nearly dry as they were small so I pealed them off stuck them straight in a joint my god I am stoned flavour was nice smooth can’t wait until its dry. There was about 45gramms wet so not a big yield but as this plant received the worse care possible the roots had rapped them self around the pot so many times it must have stunted growth even if I had left it on veg longer I think the yield would have still been tiny you can definitely see a correlation of pot size to height and yield. So the Al-Neno will have to be topped up with soil once they have been sexed I will also remove the very bottom leafs as I don’t want buds growing below the container top. First one of my plants leafs when it first sprouted had a jagged turned up look to them slowly they look like the moister is being sucked from them only on four leaves on the hold plant. But now one of the other plants in a different container is showing slight sign of this condition does anyone have an explanation?
 

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+rep man! You got some nice shit goin on! Im on my very first grow and I love it! Growin Jack The Ripper from TGAs Subcool for personal, not sellin. I hope it turns out well! Keep up the good work!
 

Coolvibes

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+rep man! You got some nice shit goin on! Im on my very first grow and I love it! Growin Jack The Ripper from TGAs Subcool for personal, not sellin. I hope it turns out well! Keep up the good work!
Thanks being catching a lot of flack recently nice to hear some words of surpport i will check your grow out
kind regards
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Sunday 31st January 2010 14:00h GMT
Well today another cold spell hit England the temperature hit 50f when I came down this morning I have put my home made heater back in the room also blocked my clean air intake up as it was -3 the air being pulled into my grow room. I also tuned my isolating fan down to 1 to stop wind chill dropping further now the suns up I have managed to bring the grow room temperature to 72f. Hope this cold spell don’t last long as I was thinking about the summer outdoor grow third week in march can start putting the pots outside in there self-built greenhouses 4X6m 2b2 roll of clear plastic inline staple gun. Then bring them in at night until frost has no chance of return. Some people prefer to plant in the ground but the way I do it cuts the risk down of pests, prying eyes, cats pissing, digging shitting, Or worse case Kids eating your buds. As they are in pots when they are near harvest you can safely put them in your house until morning stop you getting jacked too. Also gives you more control as when they are big enough to bud you don’t have to wait until late September early October for your crop as you just drop a black blanket over the greenhouse and only give it 12 hours if done right it can allow for two crops by end of the summer one forced to bud and one naturally. Well I did a bit of research on the El-nino and according to the cannabis cup 40 cm there ready to be sexed they will finally finish up around 60 cm tall. As I have 21 plants that need sexing I have plant 14. H-28cm, W-33cm, SD-60mm. Plant 15, H-22cm, W-34cm, SD-60mm. Plant 3 H-22cm, W-32cm, SD-70mm. since I topped plant 14 100 hours ago its grown 8cm in height and 7cm in length. I used 44 seeds only 21 worked and 4 f the seeds were from a random bag so this might be a different plant altogether as the stem looks different leaves are much more spaced apart and appear less jagged so will have to wait and see on this one.

Monday 1st February 2010 18:00h GMT
As you can see by the picture above all is well in the grow room average height is 27 cm. In 50 hours’ time I will top all the plants in the grow room and use them to make clones labelling then accordingly this way after sexing I can through away all the mail clones keeping the three strongest females for two mothers and one to mate to produce seeds to keep the cycle going. Today was stats day the chart below shows the result for plant 1 but on an average they are growing 1cm every 24 hours. I had my first accident this afternoon I switched the lights off for 35 minutes I switched them straight back on as soon as I realised I had a quick look in on them and they stunk more than usual as the extraction was on the plug I turned off too. All I know is it seems a large chunk of time to get results but it fly’s by I cannot believe how my seedlings have turned out better than I imagined. This time next week they could well be in there bud cycle, If growth rates continue in the same trend.
 

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