ok heres the deal i have 4 babies that are all ready filling out but two of them are looking a lilttle sickly with their arms hanging down unlike their sisters that are perky. i adopted them from a releative and he named them "widow" which is "white" and the other2 "nothernlight". now all of these are made from a main mother and are in i think rockwool 4 1/2 x 4 1/2 and they stand from 15' to 18'. oh yeah not to mention probly a major factor this is all but my first! never really cared to until i was given my now babies i feel like a father. so if you have experince with this and wanna share i wouldnt forget.