So, I got a job

Your troll award UB

Johnny Retro said:

No one knows what buck does. One day he's a treadmill sales men. One day he works at a nursery. One day he works for his dads reputable company. One day all he does is grow and sell weed.

Whatever fits his argument that day is what he does. Get used to it.

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while i wait for an answer to the question, i will be looking to invest in bowflex machines. treadmills just ain't selling.

WileyCoyote said:

Maybe I'm a moron (which my wife would say), but what is a PE? If you mean a "Profeossional Engeerning Degree", the you're delusional...

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WileyCoyote said:

.my decision to get an engineering degree 30 years ago has certainly paid off...best of luck to you

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IDK maybe it is the eight hour test you have to past after working in the field for 4 years to certify putting P.E. in your name.
Not bashing, you don't need one to work as an engineer but you can not stamp off designs without one. Its like someone signing you a prescription who is not a doctor. Just odd you have never heard of it since you have been working for over 10 years.

UncleBuck said:

anti-trust laws are a violation of free market principles, according to old mcronald.

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Congratulations, Just because I support him doesn't mean I always agree with him. We went over this, all he will be able to do is cut spending and bring troops home due to congressional gridlock. You need to have an extreme view to get anything moving in congress. By the time legislation passes it would be much more conservative but not so diluted that it does nothing.

Banditt said:

it's all good Obama is gonna save us.

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"Hala-Lu- Yah" I believe ... can I get a Amen?

UncleBuck said:

and it pays less than what i earned in high school. no benefits.

let's be thankful for those reaganomics, trickling down upon us all!

my dad also earns less than what he did 12 years ago. my mom's wages are the same, so she also earns less than she did 12 years ago when you factor in cost of living.

let's all give a huzzah for those tax cuts for the wealthy!

someone please explain the seemingly irreconcilable enigma of how employee productivity has increased, taxes have decreased, yet wages have remained stagnant or dropped while achieving zero net job growth.

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cry me a river, I am sorry you have no talent and your an idiot.

deprave said:

cry me a river, I am sorry you have no talent and your an idiot.

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*you're

perhaps you didn't realize that this was an old thread i just bumped. no one seems to want to answer my question

Let's face it, the only way we will see tax cuts across the board, in this country, is a financial collapse. Until then, the politicians are going to continue spending your money recklessly. That's because they don't care about you, or your money. Hard to grasp, I know. The reality of truth can be that way sometimes.

Other than that, this just seems like some more complaining, ultimately stemming from what I just stated above. And people want to "governmatize" more facets of this country... hysterical, considering they've already bankrupted every "governmatized" program going, many times over. This government and it's programs won't break even, any decade soon. The government needs to be defaulted, collapsed, then rebuilt. In other words reset the system. Some will die in the progress, but that's the cost.

The last chapter in the fairy tale of America is soon to be finished, and the book will be tossed in the fire. Taxes are soon to be the least of your temporary problems.

InCognition said:

Let's face it, the only way we will see tax cuts across the board, in this country, is a financial collapse. Until then, the politicians are going to continue spending your money recklessly. That's because they don't care about you, or your money. Hard to grasp, I know. The reality of truth can be that way sometimes.

Other than that, this just seems like some more complaining, ultimately stemming from what I just stated above. And people want to "governmatize" more facets of this country... hysterical, considering they've already bankrupted every "governmatized" program going, many times over. This government and it's programs won't break even, any decade soon. The government needs to be defaulted, collapsed, then rebuilt. In other words reset the system. Some will die in the progress, but that's the cost.

The last chapter in the fairy tale of America is soon to be finished, and the book will be tossed in the fire.

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if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.

UncleBuck said:

if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.

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I see you practice what you preach. You're coming along quiet well now. Congratulations.

InCognition said:

I see you practice what you preach. You're coming along quiet well now. Congratulations.

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you must be confused, i'm just looking for an answer to my question....still.

• with respect to job creation and shrinking wages, what positive effect has the temporary 4.6% tax decrease on millionaires had?
  
  you keep going on this whole rant about how if my boss has to pay 39.6% instead of 35%, he or she can't do this or can't do that. it would seem to follow using your very same logic, that if they pay 35% instead of 39.6%, he or she can do this or can do that.
  
  so, with this tax decrease in place, where has it gone? has it fueled job growth? let me check....nope. ZERO net job growth since their enactment. has it trickled down to employees in the form of growing wages, ot ones that at least keep pace with the increased cost of living? let me check....nope. wages have SHRUNK, despite increased employee productivity.
  
  so the 35% rate hasn't produced any jobs, it hasn't lead to better wages...where has it gone?​

  
  
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UncleBuck said:

you must be confused, i'm just looking for an answer to my question....still.

• with respect to job creation and shrinking wages, what positive effect has the temporary 4.6% tax decrease on millionaires had?
  
  you keep going on this whole rant about how if my boss has to pay 39.6% instead of 35%, he or she can't do this or can't do that. it would seem to follow using your very same logic, that if they pay 35% instead of 39.6%, he or she can do this or can do that.
  
  so, with this tax decrease in place, where has it gone? has it fueled job growth? let me check....nope. ZERO net job growth since their enactment. has it trickled down to employees in the form of growing wages, ot ones that at least keep pace with the increased cost of living? let me check....nope. wages have SHRUNK, despite increased employee productivity.
  
  so the 35% rate hasn't produced any jobs, it hasn't lead to better wages...where has it gone?​

  
  
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I am confused by those who ask for questions to be answer, but don't answers others questions. So yes, I am confused in that sense.

There are many other problems than tax contributing to what you "want an answer to", so to address your "question" based solely on a reference to taxes would be ignorant. So I'm not going to be "answering" any useless rhetoric you have quoted above. Is that a good answer?

InCognition said:

I am confused by those who ask for questions to be answer, but don't answers others questions. So yes, I am confused in that sense.

There are many other problems than tax contributing to what you "want an answer to", so to address your "question" based solely on a reference to taxes would be ignorant. So I'm not going to be "answering" any useless rhetoric you have quoted above. Is that a good answer?

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no, not a good answer. that was a dodge.

why is everyone too chickenshit to just answer a simple question? it won't bite you.

UncleBuck said:

was a few classes away when i had to move to support my wife as she pursued her higher education.

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Well, I can respect that. So why don't you go back and finish your degree? It would be so worth it in the end. I know several people with stories like yours, and they went back, graduated, and it really paid off for them. It would for you, too. Online degrees are really convenient these days, if you can push yourself to study on your own.

Just do it. Good luck.

WileyCoyote said:

Well, I can respect that. So why don't you go back and finish your degree? It would be so worth it in the end. I know several people with stories like yours, and they went back, graduated, and it really paid off for them. It would for you, too. Online degrees are really convenient these days, if you can push yourself to study on your own.

Just do it. Good luck.

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i learned enough to realize i wasn't learning, and i don't want any job that a degree will get me.

i'm quite happy with my treadmills.

UncleBuck said:

you must be confused, i'm just looking for an answer to my question....still.

• with respect to job creation and shrinking wages, what positive effect has the temporary 4.6% tax decrease on millionaires had?
  
  you keep going on this whole rant about how if my boss has to pay 39.6% instead of 35%, he or she can't do this or can't do that. it would seem to follow using your very same logic, that if they pay 35% instead of 39.6%, he or she can do this or can do that.
  
  so, with this tax decrease in place, where has it gone? has it fueled job growth? let me check....nope. ZERO net job growth since their enactment. has it trickled down to employees in the form of growing wages, ot ones that at least keep pace with the increased cost of living? let me check....nope. wages have SHRUNK, despite increased employee productivity.
  
  so the 35% rate hasn't produced any jobs, it hasn't lead to better wages...where has it gone?​

  
  
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YAY Unclebuck asking questions he doesn't know the answer to. Claiming specific effects of cutting a certain tax bracket is almost as ridiculous as Obama claiming to have created jobs. Quit trollin because you're doing it wrong.

Invest in elipticals.

lifegoesonbrah said:

...Claiming specific effects of cutting a certain tax bracket...

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i didn't make the claims. i never invented the term trickle down. you may look at me as a god who created the earth and heavens, and while i may think of that as creepy, it is your right. but let's be clear, trickle down was the specific effect of trying supply side economics. by cutting taxes on the top, wealth was supposed to trickle down.

well, 30 years later, we have observable results. did wages get any better? no, they've been stagnant the whole time, despite increased productivity.

we tried doubling down on it under bush's watch, maybe that was the problem. zero net job growth and stagnant wages ensued. so we can shit can the idea now.

but since the money we gave to the top didn't trickle down, where did it go? i'm so confused and stupid, someone explain to me where it went.

UncleBuck said:

i learned enough to realize i wasn't learning, and i don't want any job that a degree will get me.

i'm quite happy with my treadmills.

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Treadmills are cool...but degrees open doors that would otherwise be closed...many of the classes are bullshit, i know...but the degree will open doors...I encourage you to reconsider...

UncleBuck said:

i didn't make the claims. i never invented the term trickle down. you may look at me as a god who created the earth and heavens, and while i may think of that as creepy, it is your right. but let's be clear, trickle down was the specific effect of trying supply side economics. by cutting taxes on the top, wealth was supposed to trickle down.

well, 30 years later, we have observable results. did wages get any better? no, they've been stagnant the whole time, despite increased productivity.

we tried doubling down on it under bush's watch, maybe that was the problem. zero net job growth and stagnant wages ensued. so we can shit can the idea now.

but since the money we gave to the top didn't trickle down, where did it go? i'm so confused and stupid, someone explain to me where it went.

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I agree, cutting the rich peoples taxes isn't going to net much gain for anyone since the highest tax brackets are so small. It would be much more productive to cut the middle class taxes.

lifegoesonbrah said:

I agree, cutting the rich peoples taxes isn't going to net much gain for anyone since the highest tax brackets are so small. It would be much more productive to cut the middle class taxes.

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yep, and maybe return to the tax rates that weren't blowing up the deficit. ya know, since the intended effect of the new tax rates is a demonstrable failure that has only widened the income inequality gap and deficit to increasingly unsustainable levels.