So in reality, how harmful is marijuana?

Karmapuff

Karmapuff

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Vapor is just water and THC... I don't see how that's not healthier. Your body takes in less toxins, with smoke you have combustion which means alot of by-products your lungs have to process.
Would you rather drink soda or water for the rest of your life? o_o
 
poplars

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see4 said:
According to some claims, one would need to smoke 20,000 joints to overdose. You would die from lack of oxygen before you would overdose.

Claim was from one of those marijuana documentaries you be seein on netflix and shit yo.


poplars -- you may have read to much into what Sr Verde was saying... he is right -- and those claims he is referencing are also freely available and readily supported.. sorry to say, but you were wrong here. so very very wrong. I mean, Im not sure you have ever been as wrong in your entire life as you are currently.. thats all im sayin. dont hate the player, hate the game. holla.
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you seriously have 0 validity here, 'you were wrong here. so very very wrong.' full of depth this statement is....


Karmapuff said:
Vapor is just water and THC... I don't see how that's healthier. Your body takes in less toxins, with smoke you have combustion and which means alot of by-products...
Would you rather drink soda or water for the rest of your life? o_o
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sorry I don't know where you're getting your information but there's a LOT more than just water and thc in your vapor, there's atleast 6 other compounds (I'll have to find the info later if it's really necessary..personally I could give a fuck.)
 
see4

see4

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relax poplars -- it's a bullshit thread to begin with.. and neither of you are going to convince me whether it is or is not harmful -- I do it because I enjoy it, others do it because it helps with symptoms.. beyond that, I dont give a shit...

"full of depth this statement is..." --- what are you yoda's little brother?
 
Karmapuff

Karmapuff

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poplars said:
you seriously have 0 validity here, 'you were wrong here. so very very wrong.' full of depth this statement is....





sorry I don't know where you're getting your information but there's a LOT more than just water and thc in your vapor, there's atleast 6 other compounds (I'll have to find the info later if it's really necessary..personally I could give a fuck.)
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Well all the shit your getting with vaporizing still has to be in smoke... Well im just saying its common sense, Vaping is alot healthier then actually smoke itself.. a retard can figure that out.
It takes millions of years for genetics to imprint on future humans, Evolution doesn't work that way....
 
poplars

poplars

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I'm going by experience on me personally using a vape vs smoking... my lung would get inflammed after my illness with my lung... after vaping 10 hits my lung would be inflamed, with smoking this simply doesn't happen anymore.... that's the basis of my entire stance on this... I used to love vaping... now I don't because it has repeatedly demonstrated to me that it is not right or good for me... it is not harmless by any means... but for many people it is safe...
 
Sr. Verde

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poplars said:
the health risk is low, but it isn't non existent. to say it is non existent is bullshit, no studies you posted support it, you can post super long posts to make it seem like you're right all you want
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Here i'll keep it short.


When did I EVER say it 100% eliminates every bad property of smoking?

I never ever said that.

Your arguing against a point I never even made.

BEFORE you posted the above, I even stated the following

Sr. Verde said:
Nothing completely eliminates anything... pollution has traces of all types of crazy shit... in the air a lot of us breathe... and the water we drink. It's just that smoke contains 88% of nasty shit... where vaporizing contains trace amounts. Your shifting your argument.
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You continue to retract your argument, and saying I said things I never said.

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So, I ask again, what exactly is your argument? State it plainly.

Where am I wrong here? Lets get back on track, and make things simple.
 
Total Head

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i hate to get in this because i see where it's headed, but the notion that inhaling the combusted smoke of ANY substance could be considered "safe" really floors me. you could smoke fucking carrot sticks and it would be toxic. all this "smoking weed doesn't cause cancer" shit really bugs me. i'm not saying it DOES, but combusted smoke from most sources is generally considered potentially carinogenic. tobacco, wood, cannabis, carrots...NONE of these things is safe to inhale in the form of smoke. it's fucking SMOKE. vaping is a lot safer because of the lack of combustion, but to say it's "completely harmless" is just a bunch of stoner propaganda imo and is no better than the bullshit the drug czars spread. eating it is the only way that is truly "harmless". i think people get too caught up in the movement and start getting selective with their facts. lighting shit on fire and inhaling it is unhealthy. anyone who argues otherwise is a propagandist.
 
BOOGS

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poplars said:
none of those studies you list say it ELIMINATES risk.

you're making a false claim by saying such things... in which case your conclusion is equal to mine, you have experience showing this, I have experience showing that.

my experience is that I never got bronchitis or pneumonia in all the years I've been smoking... I switch to a high end vaporizer for 3 months and after an over-zealous session with a cold I got bronchitis and pnuemonia.

you can try to argue that the vape didn't cause this all you want, but I've never had either condition before using a vape, take it as you will.

the facts are there are studies showing that vaporizing didn't take out everything, there are still tars, there are still toxins, there are still contaminants, you're inhaling the vapor from a heated PLANT... you can't take out everything just because you focus on a specific temperature that may hopefully only vaporize those specific compounds (which it never is that simple.)

so yeah, you're just taking some information in your favor, stretching it miles away, and making a false claim.
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not just vaping thc either...I stopped smokin ciggss and switch to one of the vaproizer e-cig piece of junk never buy again things about 3 days into it I come down with REALLY bad strep throat and ended up catching pnuemonia I also never had this illness before I kno it was from that e-cig....im back to smoking ciggs now not proud of it but not miserably ill.
 
420God

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BOOGS said:
not just vaping thc either...I stopped smokin ciggss and switch to one of the vaproizer e-cig piece of junk never buy again things about 3 days into it I come down with REALLY bad strep throat and ended up catching pnuemonia I also never had this illness before I kno it was from that e-cig....im back to smoking ciggs now not proud of it but not miserably ill.
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Wow.....I can't believe I just read this.:dunce:

You and Poplars both are confusing coincidental sickness with an electronic devise.:wall:

Maybe you guys are unique, yeah, let's go with unique. Stop trying to associate your experiences to the majority out there. Vaporizer are proven to help the majority despite what your experiences tell you.


Enjoy your cancer later on in life.:peace:
 
see4

see4

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You know what else will never cause cancer, and people enjoy smoking from?

My dick.
 
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Uncultivated

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smokajoe said:
So I see all the propaganda as to why you should never pick up the devils weed, obviously thats BS.....But I started thinking is Marijuana in fact worse for you then cigarettes, being that your not using a filter, but then again better because of weed not having all the chemicals? And could this all be diverted by simply vaporizing!
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Tobacco smoke definitely has carcinogens that aren't present in MJ smoke.

What's the harm in marijuana? Well, to be honest about it, do you know any 40 year-olds living in their parents' basement that AREN'T potheads?
 
Chomps

Chomps

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For some reason I really like this thread. It's got all the key players. Golden boy phelps even stopped in. A nice heated discussion and nobodys called anybody a twat or anything.

Poplars I remember reading something you said before about a really good bong with all the bells and whistles is better for you than a vape. I bought it. And not saying one is wrong/one is right I'm just surprised how easily I just believed something. Just, reading thru this made me realize - turns out I might just have to take responsibility and start thinking for myself a bit.

I want to try the vape. And a good bong... Damn its like I'm living in the stoned age rolling all these J's
 
see4

see4

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You should ALWAYS think for yourself. And don't let the man bring you down. Hate the player, not the game.
 
Chomps

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Yeah man I do. I just dont have any experience with a vape or a fancy bong and so I just took his word for it. My bad for not looking it up later but I'm not even in the market right now anyway.

Btw my original thought process was: read cited Michael phelps, thought it would be cool if Michael phelps stopped in and said something, thought about the bong/vape thing I recently read, bam poplars, bam Michael phelps... got excited

:eyesmoke:
Blazed
 
omegaflash

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I don't think we will ever see the real study info till the"powers that be" find out a way to stop people from getting paid
And start getting paid there self. I can see the headline now "wonder drug found"
 
DelSlow

DelSlow

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Anybody know someone who's dead from SMOKING weed? I think smoking is a pretty safe way to ingest it.
 
DelSlow

DelSlow

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Why would you smoke carrots? That's silly. People smoke cannabis because its compounds are released through heat. Sure, you could eat it. But if you don't have a large amount to bake with, then what? Smoke it. Vape it. Do you. Why are we fighting again? :wall:
 
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