azcaregiver
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Sounds like a deal, my setup cost 7 grand.
so what kind of deal do you care providers make with patients?
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Bird Gymnastics
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The one I just finished building is already at 13k and we haven't even added c02
By law you can't charge patients for labor spent on the garden only resource reimbursement. If a patient feels they are being ripped off they have the power to remove their caregiver at any time. Does that mean their caregiver will stop growing if that happens, in most cases I dont think so. Patients now have the option of going to a dispensary. So if a caregiver would be growing regardless whether that patient assigned them then why should they give a patient anything for free? Do doctors work for free one sick patients? Are you saying that sick people have a right to free healthcare because i have always been in favor of universal healthcare.
Howard Stern
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alot of people are just assuming you will have tons of paitients and plenty of room to grow in! I do one paitient, I am allowed 30 plants. Fuck I know that's alot of plants but when you are grwoing indoors, running roughly 3k watts, all the soil and nutes! I have it around $50-60 per plant and roughly 2-3 oz's per plant. There is alot of room in there for profit! Once you start cutting into that it takes away the apeal of growing for you! Now I have only been growing for 4 years so I don't have the exp that some do here pulling 8-9 oz's per plant indoor! 
If someone wanted me to be their provider and give them half, 7 plants I just wouldn't do it. It just isn't worth it to me to trim and tend all that shit for 3-4 plants every 4 months. Take your card to a dispensary and have them help you! See what they will give ya!
Money is tight and I know medical people want the most out of their card, if you do then grow your own! You will get 100% of your plants! How much do you want? I wouldn't grow for someone if they wanted 1/2 the plants! 7 plants and you don't do jack shit? Fuck that! Give soemone 14-21 oz's per 4 months just so I can grow 7 others? No thanks, it just isn't worth it to me. And that's ok! I havn't heard one complaint from my paitient about our deal or the quality of the meds he gets from me!
Now of course when I make brownies I give all but two to them! And when he dropps by I will drop a 1/4 or 1/2 on him free if he is getting close to running out. But I know if you took a $100 donation from your paitient for oz's you would run out of weed real quick and you would be one broke ass fool! IMO
My grow room has problems, if yours doesn't I am happy for you! So 15 extra plants turns into 3-4 for me! I stay legal and legit so I don't go over my limit with clones, so I can't pick through and get the good ones I grow what I get! So in reality 3-4 plants isn't worth the time! But hats off to all that have a perfect grow room!
If someone wanted me to be their provider and give them half, 7 plants I just wouldn't do it. It just isn't worth it to me to trim and tend all that shit for 3-4 plants every 4 months. Take your card to a dispensary and have them help you! See what they will give ya!
Money is tight and I know medical people want the most out of their card, if you do then grow your own! You will get 100% of your plants! How much do you want? I wouldn't grow for someone if they wanted 1/2 the plants! 7 plants and you don't do jack shit? Fuck that! Give soemone 14-21 oz's per 4 months just so I can grow 7 others? No thanks, it just isn't worth it to me. And that's ok! I havn't heard one complaint from my paitient about our deal or the quality of the meds he gets from me!
Now of course when I make brownies I give all but two to them! And when he dropps by I will drop a 1/4 or 1/2 on him free if he is getting close to running out. But I know if you took a $100 donation from your paitient for oz's you would run out of weed real quick and you would be one broke ass fool! IMO
My grow room has problems, if yours doesn't I am happy for you! So 15 extra plants turns into 3-4 for me! I stay legal and legit so I don't go over my limit with clones, so I can't pick through and get the good ones I grow what I get! So in reality 3-4 plants isn't worth the time! But hats off to all that have a perfect grow room!
Howard Stern
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if a tree falls in the woods and nobody is around to hear it?
swaggersDlite
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Depends on the set up.
Redbird1223
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Nobody is entitled to anything, of course. The patient and caregiver have to find something that works for both of them. Many caregivers are patients themselves so they already have a setup. By a patient simply appointing a caregiver at their doc appt, it allows the caregiver to make a pretty penny off the excess. Is it wrong to reward a patient for giving you the ability to grow more, and thus make more meds, edibles, hash, and cash? Seems fair to me. But again, the agreement has to satisfy both parties, and deals can vary. I wouldn't agree to anything that was ridiculous or just didn't work for me. I think the point of the thread was to determine what a "fair deal" is for someone interested in a caregiver. What are some other agreements out there? Do you guys feel like there is a baseline/ starting point for these agreements?
Howard Stern
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I agree with you 100%!! As long as both parties are happy with the arangement then that is a fair one! I think 2 plants per cycle, and reduced oz donation if very fair for doing absolutely nothing and spending $75-200 a year on a card, "your provider should pay for that too" IMO.
Anyone can grow weed, the hard part is growing good weed!
Why is there so much growing equipment on craigslist? LOL not as easy as it looks! And you really don't make as much money as everyone thinks if you stay legal! You can work it out as many times as you want on paper or calculator, life has a funny way of not going the way you want or expect it to! Even more so if you are growing part time! Growing dank ass weed isn't something you do in your spare time! If someone can grow dank ass weed and only spend an hr or so a day in their grow room and pull qp's off each plant hats off to you again!
HB DC
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Obama Care... Be sure to enroll. Will be a $200 tax if not participating in the healthcare system and possible jail time. (Mandatory like auto insurance- what happens when you are caught without auto insurance and don't pay the fine; jail time.. Straight out of Obama's money maker..).
I would like to think so but sound is a measurement through the ears. (a vibration, feeling or sense..)
If no ears were in attendance how can a tree falling make sound?
Half empty, half full....
Nothing like half smart to distort the facts. Obamacare is not universal healthcare. What you are refering to is a public mandate which is not an argumnet anymore. There is no point in even arguing with anyone abput obamacare. It is here to stay and there is not a fucking thing anything can do to stop it no one wants to hear anymore whining. But I never really wanted to get into that discussion but that's what this is basically about. Should sick people get free medical care? Should the caregivers be the ones to pay for it?
BeaverHuntr
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We pay for the shit anyways. Anytime someone cant foot the bill we as insured Americans pay for it some how.
HB DC
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Its the ideology of folks... That's fact.
Give hand outs and folks will take them... No argument. I was agreeing with the nonsense... Obama care is here to stay- same with the $200 tax if not enrolled! Fact.! It will be treated like not having auto insurance. Fact. There is no argument! Maybe giving more food stamps will help... HA
Just admit it... Your love for the D party distorts your decisions to the slightest degree which is the reason why you support all the non sense from Nobama...
BAHAHA
HB DC
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If you have no SS #...
The hospital bills folks who are American citizens! We pay for illegals to get free health care...
The government hasn't paid 1 of my medical bills... I have no health insurance. It comes straight out of my pocket!
Those that are lucky enough to have an employer who "bundles" health insurance for their company has a great deal but is mostly limited in their own health diagnosis and treatment options... Wait for Nobamacare to run the healthcare system....
There is a difference between the employed and the employers... I sign my own checks. I can't speak from an employees point of view.
More government control = BAD
Back to the subject...
The more power the patient has the less power the caregiver has over the matter.! Why let the patient make the agreement? Are you not the one providing? Caregivers make decisions for their patients. This is where many caregivers lack. A caregiver should know how much their patient needs to medicate. In addition, they should have notes of what strains work for the condition their patient/s suffers. Not every strain helps with certain conditions. So being a caregiver is more than taking folks grow rights.... Maybe this is the area many caregivers should work on. The better relationship you have with a patient the more likely they are to stay with you. If I were a patient I would never leave a caregiver who were up to par on all arrangements. Many fall short.
jjlongo
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The issue is this, our hospitals never turn away a patient - no matter how much money they have or don't have. That is not the best way to treat a sore throat or a cold, but people without healthcare know that they will get treatment at a hospital. So, we pay for it now, through higher costs associated disproportionate care and lack of a preventative plan.
Everyone should have healthcare - how can we be the greatest nation in the world if we are not willing to help and provide for those most in need?
Everyone should have healthcare - how can we be the greatest nation in the world if we are not willing to help and provide for those most in need?
HB DC
Active Member
This is America...
Why shall my life be halted for another mans wrong decision making? How can a person have "freedom" if forced to tend to others?
If more folks helped their own communities and stopped asking for monetary support from the government we likely would not be in debt... How many trillion?
Folks forget the money borrowed from the Federal Reserve is not Our money... It is borrowed...
USA has no money folks. Why secure more debt? A preventive measure could be Stop spending/borrowing - what ever you want to call it...
But hey... The dollar is here to stay forever...
I like the way Amero rolls off the tongue..
HB DC
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Ok Professor...
You will find many out of state folks never understand AZ... And I have seen many come and go.!
It's a shame because folks who talk down on others can not have valid arguments because they are always right...
I still like you irieie - slightly! A stiff tree snaps! I value truth and if I am wrong prove it... Why talk shit? That's the Growing problem on RIU and people in general.
That must be why they all leave. Too bad those living here have yet to figure anything out either. In the land of ideas and facts people on opposing sides of an argument don't let the discussion affect their personal relationships.