So who here is growing in true organic living soil?

GandalfdaGreen

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Hey Rrog, you seem to know tremendously lot about organic soil. Im currently living somewhere where I cant get the fancy bags of soil. What I have at my disposal are: normal soil, perlite, humus, bat guano and dark peat moss. could you please give me the most essentiel do's and don'ts in order to reuse the soil and make it more efficient? Ive searched a lot, but most information conditions that I can get a hold of many more things, which really isnt the case. Im not trying to be cheap, I just want to make the best of my setup with whats available.. my plants are going into flowering in about three weeks.
Do exactly what Rrog tells you. No more and no less. In 3-4 months you will have something to be proud of.
 

benbud89

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Hey Rrog, you seem to know tremendously lot about organic soil. Im currently living somewhere where I cant get the fancy bags of soil. What I have at my disposal are: normal soil, perlite, humus, bat guano and dark peat moss. could you please give me the most essentiel do's and don'ts in order to reuse the soil and make it more efficient? Ive searched a lot, but most information conditions that I can get a hold of many more things, which really isnt the case. Im not trying to be cheap, I just want to make the best of my setup with whats available.. my plants are going into flowering in about three weeks.
 

benbud89

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yes compost Id be able to get. alfalfa, I dont think so. But Id have to go to the shop and see to be certain. I fear that some things are lost in translation, which is really unfortunate. My hope was to keep it as simple as possible and still get a good, organic soil to keep my closet nutritious and pest-free. I forgot to mention bone meal, that I can also get
 

Rrog

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Compost will get you an awful long way. You have some aeration material like pumice, lava rock, etc? Can you break up some charcoal to some pieces 2-3mm?

Also- bigger containers will be more forgiving. Plan on re-using this soil so you're only doing this mixing the one time.
 

benbud89

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If we are talking common charcoal, that for making fire, Id be able to get some! pumice, I think so. yes, it would be to reuse this, so I dont mind go looking. about the containers, Im ordering the 1-gallon velcro geopots and their 5gallons as well as Im a bit space limited: 90x52cm, 3'xalmost 2 feet.
 

Rrog

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Scrape up some rock dusts as you go, too. Wherever they're grinding, cutting, mining. Scrape up some rock dust. Good minerals for years to come.

So what's the local soil like? Heavy clay? Sand? Nice? Bad?
 

Mad Hamish

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You know what, Rrog... Today was the first time I could see the name of the thread, and think to myself, well yes indeed, I am growing in true organic living soil!!! What a ride you took me on. I must take you some pics of my fresh compost heap I built today, it is a thing of stinky beauty already hehehehe...
 

Mad Hamish

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Hey Rrog, you seem to know tremendously lot about organic soil. Im currently living somewhere where I cant get the fancy bags of soil. What I have at my disposal are: normal soil, perlite, humus, bat guano and dark peat moss. could you please give me the most essentiel do's and don'ts in order to reuse the soil and make it more efficient? Ive searched a lot, but most information conditions that I can get a hold of many more things, which really isnt the case. Im not trying to be cheap, I just want to make the best of my setup with whats available.. my plants are going into flowering in about three weeks.
It takes around 3 or 4 weeks to work through this entire thread in one's spare time, or at least it did for me, but I do suggest you do it. I warn you, information overload will come often LOL... There's a whole lot of very cool links and DL's posted long the way by several folks, and a lot of common 'errors' are dealt with. This thread here is pretty much all you need to get going properly using LOS
 

Mad Hamish

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HAHA!-

not three or four weeks.

YAY! im here!
Did you download and read Teaming With Microbes and the BIM seminar links? Game changers for me those. And damn, that was pretty quick man!
I guess I'm easily amused too, then. Hamish, do you folks talk about remineralization down there?

http://remineralize.org/
We've got some great products just hitting the shelves here just for soil conditioning, I just found a badass rock dust mix, 75 minerals and trace elements, no processing other than grinding and mixing rocks, I'll go look for a link to show you :)
Good morning Hamish! :-)




edit: Not sure why I love pointing out the time difference. I'm easily amused
Muahahaha... 4:30 in the morning about now, about to hit the lab till sunrise and then I have a compost heap that needs turning and another I am starting, gonna be an epic day! Outdoor season is here. FINALLY. Critical already at 3 nodes and still 4 months of veg in the African sun before flowering starts...
 

benbud89

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  • So what's the local soil like? Heavy clay? Sand? Nice? Bad?​




I think it's somewhat standard soil. I dont know if the pictures from my album would suffice to give you an idea? It's storebought soil (3/10), perlite (3/10) , hummus (2,5/10) and peat moss (1,5/10). However, on some watering days, Ive mixed up some 15-15-15 NPK in the water, so I figure Id have to do another soil in order to have a reusable one?
 

Murfy

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DDDAAAAMMMMMMMMMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNn-

do i got some bags of shit here. who knows what they do?

just need some clay? and some crab meal. any ideas?
 

st0wandgrow

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I told him the different things I already had on hand and he told me they would love the dairy doo so right now it's dairy doo mixed with shredded brown grocery bags and I gave them a half rotten pear last night before I tucked them in.

http://www.dairydoo.com/products/dairy-doo

Regarding the Dairy Doo.... I would check with the company and see how long the manure was aged. I had an issue a few months ago when I picked up a bag of cattle poop compost from Eastern Market, and put it in my worm bin. I ended up with a bunch of dead worms. Through research I found out that it's common practice for feed lots/dairy farms to use de-worming agents in their feed for intestinal worms. If the manure isn't aged enough, there can still be traces of this in the manure, which can slow down or kill your composting worms. A guy on another site told me to check with the manufacturer to see if they use a product called "Ivermectin".

Just a heads up.

I use coco coir, a little soil, shredded cardboard, and /or compost from my backyard compost bin and they are doing great!
 
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