SOG growers wanted !!!

sparkafire

sparkafire

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CustomHydro said:
Yeah that is true, but 99% of the people on here doing SOG do it perpetually.
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I don't know about that... when you generalize terminology people tend to latch onto it and call their grow a SOG Hell i did it!! I am thinking of starting a Hydroponic Perpetual thread and bail on this one. I want to only talk about Hydro Perps
 
CustomHydro

CustomHydro

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sparkafire said:
I don't know about that... when you generalize terminology people tend to latch onto it and call their grow a SOG Hell i did it!! I am thinking of starting a Hydroponic Perpetual thread and bail on this one. I want to only talk about Hydro Perps
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Really? I'm yet to see a SOG that isn't a perpetual based off of Al's grow. I guess I really don't look for SOG threads.
Either way post a link on here and I will meet u there.
 
CustomHydro

CustomHydro

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sparkafire said:
no not at all just trying to get a feel for your grow.
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I didn't know if u were tryin to hint me out of ur thread by saying u only wanted to talk perpetual... Sorry...
Anyways, how is ur grow? I saw u over by Al sayin u had a little mishap.
I hate when I make mistakes, everytime I think I may have finnally got it, I get proven wrong...
The only way I truly learn a lesson is the hard way. I had enough problems setting up my room, now I have to learn how to use it:-(
 
sparkafire

sparkafire

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CustomHydro said:
I didn't know if u were tryin to hint me out of ur thread by saying u only wanted to talk perpetual... Sorry...
Anyways, how is ur grow? I saw u over by Al sayin u had a little mishap.
I hate when I make mistakes, everytime I think I may have finnally got it, I get proven wrong...
The only way I truly learn a lesson is the hard way. I had enough problems setting up my room, now I have to learn how to use it:-(
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Naw man sorry for that. I guess my rep for being a dick proceeds me.

Yea it can be a bit of a trial i hope i didnt jack myself up too much . the new thread is up chack it out. https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/113191-hydroponic-perpetual-grow-community.html#post1370930
 
thecloset

thecloset

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sparkafire said:
Its all going to depend on your space and size you plan on doing. EBB & Flow is the way to go but you really have to plan this because of all the pieces that have to work together with a perpetual grow. Think about what you are going to use for trays, tubs, pumps fans and lights then you have to figure out how your set up for the mothers and how your are going to set up for clones.

Worry about getting it up and running. ITS A TON OF WORK and you don't need extra things like complex nutes CO2 and anything else that will distract you from just getting this running smoothly. Hydro in this set up will bring you to your knees if your not careful one mistake will cost you a minimum of 2 weeks if not your whole grow and have to start from scratch. Keep it basic basic basic!!!!

Thinking about yield is the last thing you should be worried about!! Lets get you growing first and go from there.
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I already have a good idea of how I would do it. I have grown succesfully in DWC and soil and I already have all the space and equipment necessary for ebb and flow tables mothers and clones. I gave Ebb and Flow SOG a shot earlier this year but was extremely dissappointed... many of the plants died and all of them were at least stunted. None yeilded more than probably a quarter ounce. I suspected that the problem was that the 4 inch rockwool cubes may have been staying too wet and causing the plants to be overwatered. This is why i asked for specifics such as medium and how often the table is flooded. Im thinking that i may have more success rooting clones either in an aero cloner or in just 1 inch rockwool cubes and then putting those in pots with hydroton instead of a larger rockwool cube. Im thinking this may give the roots more oxygen. Besides that im always curious about lighting, ventilation etc just to get a feel for ur room. In general i just figured it would be good for this thread if everyone who posted about their perpetual ebb and flow SOG included the information i suggested.
 
sparkafire

sparkafire

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thecloset said:
I already have a good idea of how I would do it. I have grown succesfully in DWC and soil and I already have all the space and equipment necessary for ebb and flow tables mothers and clones. I gave Ebb and Flow SOG a shot earlier this year but was extremely dissappointed... many of the plants died and all of them were at least stunted. None yeilded more than probably a quarter ounce. I suspected that the problem was that the 4 inch rockwool cubes may have been staying too wet and causing the plants to be overwatered. This is why i asked for specifics such as medium and how often the table is flooded. Im thinking that i may have more success rooting clones either in an aero cloner or in just 1 inch rockwool cubes and then putting those in pots with hydroton instead of a larger rockwool cube. Im thinking this may give the roots more oxygen. Besides that im always curious about lighting, ventilation etc just to get a feel for ur room. In general i just figured it would be good for this thread if everyone who posted about their perpetual ebb and flow SOG included the information i suggested.
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Hey i moved my response to the Perpetual grow thread https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/113191-hydroponic-perpetual-grow-community.html
 
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benson

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can i use the lites out of my sisters sunbed.for co2 cud i leave a open 2L bottle of coke beside my marowana plant. how big of a pump do i need to flood my soil.what color shud my marowana leaves b
 
CustomHydro

CustomHydro

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benson said:
can i use the lites out of my sisters sunbed.for co2 cud i leave a open 2L bottle of coke beside my marowana plant. how big of a pump do i need to flood my soil.what color shud my marowana leaves b
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Yep u can just put ur plants in the sun bed and grow them in there. They love the UV rays, especially as a seedling...
Then just shake up those coke bottles and slam them against the ground until they explode. That explosion creates a massive amount of CO2 to be released into the air, after u do about 10 of those per square foot of area turn off all the lights for a week straight, and seal the room as much as possible. The CO2 will only work with the lights off so they will have a whole week of heaven!.
As far as a pump, u dont need a pump. Just syphon used bath water out of the tub and toilet (for nutes) and water them with that. The piss and shit smell will mix with the used bath water soap and even itself out, so no worries...
Sounds like u got your room finished. Good job and don't forget to post final product...
 
CustomHydro

CustomHydro

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sparkafire said:
Naw man sorry for that. I guess my rep for being a dick proceeds me.

Yea it can be a bit of a trial i hope i didnt jack myself up too much . the new thread is up chack it out. https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/113191-hydroponic-perpetual-grow-community.html#post1370930
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Cool I will see u there. Your known for being a dick too huh, so am I.
I didn't think u were being a dick tho, I'm terrible at explaining shit sometimes so I didn't know if I had u all confused on my setup.
 
CustomHydro

CustomHydro

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thecloset said:
I already have a good idea of how I would do it. I have grown succesfully in DWC and soil and I already have all the space and equipment necessary for ebb and flow tables mothers and clones. I gave Ebb and Flow SOG a shot earlier this year but was extremely dissappointed... many of the plants died and all of them were at least stunted. None yeilded more than probably a quarter ounce. I suspected that the problem was that the 4 inch rockwool cubes may have been staying too wet and causing the plants to be overwatered. This is why i asked for specifics such as medium and how often the table is flooded. Im thinking that i may have more success rooting clones either in an aero cloner or in just 1 inch rockwool cubes and then putting those in pots with hydroton instead of a larger rockwool cube. Im thinking this may give the roots more oxygen. Besides that im always curious about lighting, ventilation etc just to get a feel for ur room. In general i just figured it would be good for this thread if everyone who posted about their perpetual ebb and flow SOG included the information i suggested.
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Hey Closet...
For my medium i will use Rockwool (you can buy 40pound bags of the stuff for around $50) and Fytocel. You could use Hydroton too, but if you have a pump fail the plants will need water faster than with a more absorbent medium. Most people who use RW in their medium only need to water one time per day.
As far as lighting, I use 1 1000 watt with cooltube over each pair of 4x4 flood tables.
I have a 450CFM Vortex fan to vent out an 8x8x7' room, along with a CanFilter rated for 420CFM
 
grandpabear3

grandpabear3

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a lil update fer yall

pics of the op
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ok... here are the latest pic of the grow:weed:


here are the 7 that made it through the nut burn. they are in week 6 of flower right now







here are the other 2 batches in flower and a wide shot....well sort of wide:razz:










and here are the mums after a pass of cuttings and a vicous pruning. the only bitches your still allowed to beat....lmao



and then there's the clones ....all out of the rapid rooters now so i finally used the neo collars, and changed a few things so we'll see
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grandpabear3

grandpabear3

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i have decided to do a three way side by side comparison of cloning techniques. one will be the aerocloner, the next will be rapid rooters in a humidome on a heat mat and the third will be albfuct style rw cubes on a heat mat. i'm gonna settle it once and for all for me personally. i'll start a cloning journal and post pics like crazy. it'll be a hoot:weed:
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CustomHydro

CustomHydro

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Nice job Bugs!
It'll keep getting better and better!
I have had great success with home made aerocloners. The only thing u have to watch out for is overwatering, and leaks from the tub...
Sparks didn't want to be associated with us anymore?
He thought we were some punk ass rookies...lol J/K...
Anyways, I love your room! I cant wait to get up and running. I can taste it!
 
grandpabear3

grandpabear3

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CustomHydro said:
Nice job Bugs!
It'll keep getting better and better!
I have had great success with home made aerocloners. The only thing u have to watch out for is overwatering, and leaks from the tub...
Sparks didn't want to be associated with us anymore?
He thought we were some punk ass rookies...lol J/K...
Anyways, I love your room! I cant wait to get up and running. I can taste it!
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thanks, you!!!! i will win dammit. spark'll be back. he loves us. you are about to go through what i'm in the middle of. i hope you can take something positive from my mistakes and sucesses along the way


IGrowChronic said:
Hehe Sparky was the name of my bong
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oh, now see....there, you done gone and done it just then....now we'll be watching an e-fight if sparky takes that the wrong way. lets all hope hes in a good mood:weed:
 
CustomHydro

CustomHydro

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bugsrnme said:
i hope you can take something positive from my mistakes and sucesses along the way
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That is exactly what I intend to do. It's one thing to watch Al, a guy with 20 years growing under his belt and makes no mistakes... vs.. someone more like me, thanks for posting, I definately will try to learn from your mistakes, I can't promise anything tho...




oh, now see....there, you done gone and done it just then....now we'll be watching an e-fight if sparky takes that the wrong way. lets all hope hes in a good mood
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E-Fight, E-Fight.....
 
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