SOG with soil - NEED HELP

GibbsIt89

Well-Known Member
that sounds good, if they really take off you may still want to go up to 3 gallons though.
is that ok to do when i switch to the 1000watt for the remaining 4 weeks of flower??

cuz i only have 4'x4' under the 400watt and double that 4'x8' under the 1000watt... like i said tho i can push for 5'x8' if i get a 48" parabolic hood.. does that sound right?
 

GibbsIt89

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ENGLAND123

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ok here is my little bit of info for you

Sea of Green (SOG) is the theory of harvesting lots of small plants, matured early to get
the fastest production of buds available. Instead of growing a few plants for a longer period of
time, in the same space many smaller plants are grown that mature faster and in less time. Thus,
less time is required between crops. This is important to you when the electricity bill comes
each month. One crop can be started while another is maturing, and a continuous harvest, year
round can be maintained. 4 plants per square foot will be a good start for seedlings. 1 plant per
square foot will allow plenty of room for each plant to grow a large top cola, but will not allow
for much bottom branching. This is OK since indoors, these bottom branches are always shaded
anyway, and will not grow very well unless given additional light and space. The indoor grower
quickly realizes that plants that are too tall do not produce enough at the bottom to make the
extra growing time used worth while. An exception to this rule would be if it is intended the
plants are to go outside at some point, and it is expected that the light/shading issue will not be
a factor at that point.
The plants, if started at the same time, should create what is called a "green canopy" that
traps most of the light at the top level of the plants. Little light will penetrate below this level,
since the plants are so close together. The gardener is attempting to concentrate on the top of the
plant, and use the light and space to the best advantage, in as little time as possible. Use of nylon
poultry fence or similar trellising laid out over the green canopy will support the plants as they
start to droop under.
the weight of heavy fruiting tops. Stakes can be used too, but are not as easy to install for plants
in the middle and back of the room, where reach is more difficult.
It's easy to want big plants, since they will produce more yield per plant, but it's usually
better with limited space to grow smaller plants that mature faster and pack into smaller spaces.
Sea of Green was developed in Holland. Instead of fitting 4 large plants in that small room, fit
12 small ones on a shelf above 12 other small plants. These plants take only 3-4 months to
mature from germination to ripe buds, and harvesting takes place constantly, since there is both
a vegetative and flowering area devoted to each, with harvests every 45-60 days.
It's not the size of the plant, but the maturity and quality of the product that counts.
Twice as many plants grown half as big will fill the grow space twice as fast, so harvests take
place almost twice as often. Get good at picking early flowering plants, and propagate only
those that are of the best quality.
6" square containers will allow for 4 plants per square foot. You may also gauge by the
size of your growing tray (for passive hydroponics); I like kitty litter boxes. ($3 each at Target)
Planted 4 per square foot, (for vegetative seedlings) a 12 sq. ft. closet will hold 48 seedlings on
one shelf. In my case, I use 4" rockwool cubes that fit into kitty litter pans @ 12 cubes per pan. I
can get 5 pans onto a 12 sq. ft. closet upper shelf, so that is 60 seedlings on one small shelf!
For flowering indoors, 1 plant per sq. ft. is a good rule of thumb for SOG. If less plants
are grown in this size space, it will take them longer to fill the space, thus more electricity and
time will be used to create the same amount of product. If more than one plant p.s.f. is
attempted, the grower will soon find that plants thus crowded tend to be more stem than bud, and
the total harvest may be reduced, so be cautious.
It's good to avoid "topping" your plants if you want them to grow as fast as possible. It's
better just to grow 2 or 4 times more plants, since they will produce more, faster, in the same
space. Also, "training" plants with twist-ties is a great way to get them to bush out a bit. Just take
any type of plastic or paper twist tie and wrap it around the top of the plant, then pull it over until
the top is bent over 90-180 degrees and then attach this to the main stem lower on the plant. Do
this for one week and then release the plant from it's bond. The plant can be trained in this
fashion to take less vertical space and to grow bushier, to fill the grow space and force lower
limbs to grow upward and join the green canopy. This technique takes advantage of the fact that
if the top is pulled over, it creates a hormonal condition in the plant that makes it bush out at all
lower internodes.
Sea of Green entails growing to harvest the main cola (top) of the plant. Bottom
branches are trimmed to increase air flow under the "blanket" of growing tops. Use these
cuttings for clones, as they are the easiest part of the plant to root. It's also the fastest part of the
plant to regenerate after flowering has occurred.



hope this helps :D
 

darkdestruction420

Well-Known Member
i'd just go ahead and stick with the 2 gallon pots plan then for now. If you find you need to move them to a bigger size pot after the first batch in 2 gallons flowering is finished (or if you feel they outgrow the 2 gallons before going under the 1000w)you can always start using 3 gallons on the batch after that under the 1000w. See how 2 gallons goes for you.
 

GibbsIt89

Well-Known Member
i'd just go ahead and stick with the 2 gallon pots plan then for now. If you find you need to move them to a bigger size pot after the first batch in 2 gallons flowering is finished (or if you feel they outgrow the 2 gallons before going under the 1000w)you can always start using 3 gallons on the batch after that under the 1000w. See how 2 gallons goes for you.
fair enough, sounds good to me.
 

GibbsIt89

Well-Known Member
ok here is my little bit of info for you

Sea of Green (SOG) is the theory of harvesting lots of small plants, matured early to get
the fastest production of buds available. Instead of growing a few plants for a longer period of
time, in the same space many smaller plants are grown that mature faster and in less time. Thus,
less time is required between crops. This is important to you when the electricity bill comes
each month. One crop can be started while another is maturing, and a continuous harvest, year
round can be maintained. 4 plants per square foot will be a good start for seedlings. 1 plant per
square foot will allow plenty of room for each plant to grow a large top cola, but will not allow
for much bottom branching. This is OK since indoors, these bottom branches are always shaded
anyway, and will not grow very well unless given additional light and space. The indoor grower
quickly realizes that plants that are too tall do not produce enough at the bottom to make the
extra growing time used worth while. An exception to this rule would be if it is intended the
plants are to go outside at some point, and it is expected that the light/shading issue will not be
a factor at that point.
The plants, if started at the same time, should create what is called a "green canopy" that
traps most of the light at the top level of the plants. Little light will penetrate below this level,
since the plants are so close together. The gardener is attempting to concentrate on the top of the
plant, and use the light and space to the best advantage, in as little time as possible. Use of nylon
poultry fence or similar trellising laid out over the green canopy will support the plants as they
start to droop under.
the weight of heavy fruiting tops. Stakes can be used too, but are not as easy to install for plants
in the middle and back of the room, where reach is more difficult.
It's easy to want big plants, since they will produce more yield per plant, but it's usually
better with limited space to grow smaller plants that mature faster and pack into smaller spaces.
Sea of Green was developed in Holland. Instead of fitting 4 large plants in that small room, fit
12 small ones on a shelf above 12 other small plants. These plants take only 3-4 months to
mature from germination to ripe buds, and harvesting takes place constantly, since there is both
a vegetative and flowering area devoted to each, with harvests every 45-60 days.
It's not the size of the plant, but the maturity and quality of the product that counts.
Twice as many plants grown half as big will fill the grow space twice as fast, so harvests take
place almost twice as often. Get good at picking early flowering plants, and propagate only
those that are of the best quality.
6" square containers will allow for 4 plants per square foot. You may also gauge by the
size of your growing tray (for passive hydroponics); I like kitty litter boxes. ($3 each at Target)
Planted 4 per square foot, (for vegetative seedlings) a 12 sq. ft. closet will hold 48 seedlings on
one shelf. In my case, I use 4" rockwool cubes that fit into kitty litter pans @ 12 cubes per pan. I
can get 5 pans onto a 12 sq. ft. closet upper shelf, so that is 60 seedlings on one small shelf!
For flowering indoors, 1 plant per sq. ft. is a good rule of thumb for SOG. If less plants
are grown in this size space, it will take them longer to fill the space, thus more electricity and
time will be used to create the same amount of product. If more than one plant p.s.f. is
attempted, the grower will soon find that plants thus crowded tend to be more stem than bud, and
the total harvest may be reduced, so be cautious.
It's good to avoid "topping" your plants if you want them to grow as fast as possible. It's
better just to grow 2 or 4 times more plants, since they will produce more, faster, in the same
space. Also, "training" plants with twist-ties is a great way to get them to bush out a bit. Just take
any type of plastic or paper twist tie and wrap it around the top of the plant, then pull it over until
the top is bent over 90-180 degrees and then attach this to the main stem lower on the plant. Do
this for one week and then release the plant from it's bond. The plant can be trained in this
fashion to take less vertical space and to grow bushier, to fill the grow space and force lower
limbs to grow upward and join the green canopy. This technique takes advantage of the fact that
if the top is pulled over, it creates a hormonal condition in the plant that makes it bush out at all
lower internodes.
Sea of Green entails growing to harvest the main cola (top) of the plant. Bottom
branches are trimmed to increase air flow under the "blanket" of growing tops. Use these
cuttings for clones, as they are the easiest part of the plant to root. It's also the fastest part of the
plant to regenerate after flowering has occurred.



hope this helps :D

and it does, thanx bro, ive read this somwhere before or something very similar, but ALWAYS a good reminder haha.. good info +rep

and i do have an early flowering strain :) its.. i dont know the actually strain but thats why i nicknamed her SHEarly it sexed in like 3 days it was awsome.. nice potent fruity smell
 

GibbsIt89

Well-Known Member
this is the other option without vegging.. i think this way i would be harvesting every4 weeks instead of every 5 weeks with vegging.. i wonder how much of a yeild i would get with the extra week veg..


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