Soil Food Web Gardening with Compost Teas

Sincerely420

Sincerely420

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Just because it's easier to brew the bad microbes than the bennies.

But I'm not always right and I'm just giving my opinion based on what I know and what I'd do boss :joint:

You can dilute it and use it sure, I just wouldn't! BUT, if you do end up diluting and using it, watch it carely like within the 3-4 hours afterwards and see if you notice any leaf discoloration. If you don;t, you should be good!
 
DANKSWAG

DANKSWAG

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Sincerely420 said:
Just because it's easier to brew the bad microbes than the bennies.

But I'm not always right and I'm just giving my opinion based on what I know and what I'd do boss :joint:

You can dilute it and use it sure, I just wouldn't! BUT, if you do end up diluting and using it, watch it carely like within the 3-4 hours afterwards and see if you notice any leaf discoloration. If you don;t, you should be good!
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Other than being strong, it smells right, like I have my face buried in a bag of roots organic soil. So unless there is another reason to be concerned except I brewed a concentrated form that needs dilution then I will have to apply to my flowering babe (see signature link) for its a High P brew for flowering and my baby clones are still in veg.

I will watch for any distress within the first 4 hours, flush with water if anything occurs and move on.
If not will move on with using it. Say how long can it sit in the bucket aerating before it has to be used?
 
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DANKSWAG said:
Other than being strong, it smells right, like I have my face buried in a bag of roots organic soil. So unless there is another reason to be concerned except I brew a concentrated form that needs dilution then I will have to apply to my flowering babe (see signature link) for its a High P brew for flowering and my baby clones are still in veg.

I will watch for any distress within the first 4 hours, flush with water if anything occurs and move on.
If not will move on with using it. Say how long can it sit in the bucket aerating before it has to be used?
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Just more like...when you wanna brew bennies, you need certain ingredients to do so.
You can't just put whatever in water an expect it to reproduce! And when you look at how much the recommened doses are for using guanos, it's like you're just ASKING to burn you girls. I think guano says on the back up the bag to use tbsp per gallon, but you're using 1/2 cup of it!
1/4 cup is like 4 spoons, so half cup is like 8-10!

So you're not brewing a tea..you're just adding amendments to water and bubbling them lol!
BUT, i'll check your thread out and see what happens!

Just know I voted against it! :peace:
 
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Mohican said:
The molasses always reminds me of beer! Especially after it has been eaten by the microbes :)
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It always scares me lol, bcuz once I used to much and ignored the fact that it smell toooooo damn sweet....
Pour it on my girls and the did NOT like it haha! So now I always use it in EXTREME moderation lol
 
DANKSWAG

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Sincerely420 said:
Just more like...when you wanna brew bennies, you need certain ingredients to do so.
You can't just put whatever in water an expect it to reproduce! And when you look at how much the recommened doses are for using guanos, it's like you're just ASKING to burn you girls. I think guano says on the back up the bag to use tbsp per gallon, but you're using 1/2 cup of it!
1/4 cup is like 4 spoons, so half cup is like 8-10!

So you're not brewing a tea..you're just adding amendments to water and bubbling them lol!
BUT, i'll check your thread out and see what happens!

Just know I voted against it! :peace:
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Not questioning you, just trying to understand what makes you think I have not created bennies? There is no bad smell, I have the foaming of the brew. Just want to understand on what facts of tea making that leads you to believe I am just adding amendments to water and that I do not have a viable aact tea brewing? I believe you don't think I have an aact tea, just not clear on why factually?
 
DANKSWAG

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Sincerely420 said:
It always scares me lol, bcuz once I used to much and ignored the fact that it smell toooooo damn sweet....
Pour it on my girls and the did NOT like it haha! So now I always use it in EXTREME moderation lol
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So how about a recipe for flowering.... using EWC Bat guano and Seabird guano?
 
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Sincerely420

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It's all good boss!!

Just judging by the amendments you've added and the amounts of each.
Certain amendment brew certain things in the teas, and have to be mixed accordingly to help control which bennies grows.

For example, using vermicompost as your main source of compost during flowering isn't ideal bcuz EWCs add to the bacterial count, which fix N.
Other than the EWC, I don't see anything else that you've added which will add to the b/a count.
The foam really means nothing as well! Or it means something, but not that bennies are reproducing!
 
DANKSWAG

DANKSWAG

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Sincerely420 said:
It's all good boss!!

Just judging by the amendments you've added and the amounts of each.
Certain amendment brew certain things in the teas, and have to be mixed accordingly to help control which bennies grows.

For example, using vermicompost as your main source of compost during flowering isn't ideal bcuz EWCs add to the bacterial count, which fix N.
Other than the EWC, I don't see anything else that you've added which will add to the b/a count.
The foam really means nothing as well! Or it means something, but not that bennies are reproducing!
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Seems like every recipe out there has EWC, so though it could not be solid aact that is free from bacteria from EWC applying this tea shouldn't hurt as long as it is not too hot.
 
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Try using 1/4cup to a gallon maybe?! What about Kelp Meal?

I feed like you need to have:
-UnSulphured Molasses
-Kelp Meal
-Fish Hydro(Neptune Harvest)
-Compost
-Vermicompost.

The microbes that you aim to reproduce in the teas start with the compost...
That's the main reason I feel like the brew is a little off ya know
 
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DANKSWAG said:
Seems like every recipe out there has EWC, so though it could not be solid aact that is free from bacteria from EWC applying this tea shouldn't hurt as long as it is not too hot.
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Most do have EWCs bro, but I'd say those are veg tea, or balanced tea..but not flowering teas.
EWCS are pretty much plant ready Nitrogen.

And bacteria reproduce much better/faster than fungi, so you need to take care to avoid brewing a bacterially dominant tea EVERY TIME you know?!
 
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Can't say for sure bro :joint: I'd guess that it's be pretty baterially dominant making it better for veg!

That's just a guess tho. You can try it out for sure tho!
 
DANKSWAG

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Sincerely420 said:
Can't say for sure bro :joint: I'd guess that it's be pretty baterially dominant making it better for veg!

You say baterically dominate for veg? Because? You think it is high in N? not P correct?
So If I had just cut out my EWC and got my vermi compost in High P ratio to a gallon of water and used kelp meal not liquid extract... my tea would be a viable acct brew?
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Sincerely420

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Alright...EWC = Vermicompost
Vermicompost is worm compost! Compost that passed thru worms and got coated with their inner goodness!
Compost is just decaying/decayed organic matter! But nothing to do with the worms

And yes you want a bacterially dominant tea during veg! Either than or a balanced tea!

For example here are two different mixes I'd use outta IDK how many:

Veg mix:
1 gal h20(dechlorinated)
1/4cup Vermicompost or EWCs(Earthworms castings)
1tbsp "Ancient forest" compost
1/2tsp Kelp Meal
1tsp Fish Hydro(Neptunes Harvest)
1tsp Molasses
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Flower mix:

1 gal h20(dechlorinated)
1/4cup "Ancient forest" compost
1tbsp EWCs
1/2tsp Kelp Meal
1tsp Fish Hydro(Neptunes Harvest)
1tsp Hi-P Bat Guano
1tsp Molasses

The only thing I changed in the two recipes is the main source of the bennies from EWC to compost.

That's pretty much the mix I use as a basis, and I deviated from it a little, but only with one experiment at a time.
And I never give the same exact tea over and over.

I also dilute everything 1:1 just to stretch it out since I only brew by the gallon! I'll be going up to the 5 gallon brew for the next grow!
 
DANKSWAG

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Thanks,

I really want to use my high phosphorus bat guano and sea bird guano, couldn't I use 1/4 cup High P bat guano and 1 tbsp seabird guano for substitutes to the recipe?

Flower mix:

1 gal h20(dechlorinated)
1/4cup "Ancient forest" compost
1tbsp EWCs
1/2tsp Kelp Meal
1tsp Fish Hydro(Neptunes Harvest)
1tsp Molasses
 
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Sincerely420

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I would say no based on my current level of understanding bro.

And I usually add a tsp of Hi P guano during flowering! I just forgot to add it! But I went back and added it!

And in order to substitute something, you have to put something similar in it's place bro!
There's nothing to doing the job of that 1/4c Hi-P guano for you to replace it with..

Look at the back of the bag. It should say use a tbsp per gallon of water every couple weeks..
Why would you think you can go over the amount they suggest THAT MUCH, and have no ill effects ya know?! :joint:
 
DANKSWAG

DANKSWAG

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Sincerely420 said:
I would say no based on my current level of understanding bro.

And I usually add a tsp of Hi P guano during flowering! I just forgot to add it! But I went back and added it!

And in order to substitute something, you have to put something similar in it's place bro!
There's nothing to doing the job of that 1/4c Hi-P guano for you to replace it with..

Look at the back of the bag. It should say use a tbsp per gallon of water every couple weeks..
Why would you think you can go over the amount they suggest THAT MUCH, and have no ill effects ya know?! :joint:
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So what does a recipe look like using high P bat guano?
 
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