Soil question

So I just bought some MG soil ( 12cubic feet)

If I were to dig 2x2 holes how much soil would it take to fill each hole ? I’m trying to only use one bag per hole ;
Or should I mix the MG soil with native soil in the hole as well?
All advice and suggestions welcome ;;

Now I know some will disagree with me using MG but that’s ok ; everyone has an opinion.
 
Is nothing wrong with using MG, only reason people do not like it is because it can be a bit hot for new plants and yada yada

It's like going the gym! The carrying in soil and amendments and digging the holes Is the pre workout!

Come middle of summer you will be carry upwards of 30 gallons of water ever 2 to 3 day or more depending on how many plants
 
Is nothing wrong with using MG, only reason people do not like it is because it can be a bit hot for new plants and yada yada

It's like going the gym! The carrying in soil and amendments and digging the holes Is the pre workout!

Come middle of summer you will be carry upwards of 30 gallons of water ever 2 to 3 day or more depending on how many plants

Ok thanks for this!

I will have between 3-6 plants ; I’m starting to dig the holes today most likely and then put soul in each hole; then in mid May I will transplant my girls that I will start in like a week into the ground ( Reg seeds most likely )

I started with 12 plants last year and then had to chop six cuz they were male.


Was carrying ALOT of water last year too!!!

I didn’t have any soil last year and my plants grew pretty good so I can only Imagine how well they will grow this year !!
 

Freedom seed

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I wrote this in another thread this morning thought I would add it to yours. I’m on sandy loam. Just wanted to mention this if you were successful in the ground last year. From experience:

Another thing worth mentioning is the sand. Everybody on these sites talks about digging a huge hole and filling it up with organic potting soil mixes. If you are on sandy ground all the bugs and mice/rats will be moving in, maybe a ground hog if you’re not so lucky. I find planted straight into good, clean, natural soil with any added organics either top dressed or buried deep to keep the oxygen up around the roots is much safer.
 
I wrote this in another thread this morning thought I would add it to yours. I’m on sandy loam. Just wanted to mention this if you were successful in the ground last year. From experience:

Another thing worth mentioning is the sand. Everybody on these sites talks about digging a huge hole and filling it up with organic potting soil mixes. If you are on sandy ground all the bugs and mice/rats will be moving in, maybe a ground hog if you’re not so lucky. I find planted straight into good, clean, natural soil with any added organics either top dressed or buried deep to keep the oxygen up around the roots is much safer.
This is the kind of soil I have here ;; sandy soil ; it’s good for blueberries I guess ; there’s lots of blueberry farms around here;

What if I mix the MG in with native soil ? Would that Benefit it in anyway ?

I just want my girls to have the best chance possible ; they grew alright last year in just native soil, but I had six girls and one died on me ( my fault, accidentally spilt the main stem ; ) couldn’t save it ;

Just want to grow better than last year ya know ?

More lst more topping and sooner on ; have a bigger “cage”. Clean up and prune more often.

Thanks for your input btw ;

I’m still new to growing ; so lots to learn .
 
Sand acts like perlite does and helps for drainage, for critters the best options in old grows and I grew monsters

Dogs shed this time of year collect it and spread

Urinate in a bottle (yes gross!) Or take a good ol piss around ya area of plants!

Irish spring soap shaved down to dust and toss it around ya plots

Had no problems with critters or anything big enough wanting to mess with my plants

ALSO plant after spring veg of natural food for animals or else ya may need cages or a barrier for deer and rabbits as they'll want to eat what's green and not mean to eat your plants
 

Freedom seed

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I’ve heard from guys that use MG to just throw a couple shovels in the bottom of the hole and maybe mix a bit in up top. The problem is that the organics decompose in the ground, using up oxygen, lowering redox, etc. If you mix it completely through and get a heavy rain and it compacts then you have issues. Then there is bugs.

In my sandy loam I cannot believe how good loaded biochar works. I mix it very lightly through my soil. Usually load it with something stinky because it makes the smell go away. Fish filter waste, rotten fruit, etc. It’s a good way to deal with stinky waste. The organics adsorb onto the charcoal and the smell will be gone when it dries. I’m going to try bone charcoal this year, homemade. I just make a fire and then hose it.

If you try an experiment put half in the miracle grow and half straight in the dirt with a little top dressed organic tomato granules and a
fish buried a foot and a half under the root ball, and a tea or two. I guarantee you will never grow with miracle grow again. Stronger plants = less pests. Btw if you put your pests in your tea you will breed their enemies.

A local outdoor grower told me a story last year. He grew in an old pasture clearing in a forest, that had black dirt, never been cropped, fertilized or sprayed. Every year it was easy for him. So last year he wanted to go a little more commercial so he went and bought some miracle grow shake and feed. He ended up with his worst yield and most problems ever.

To get your yield get some decent outdoor genetics, and do the training to open them up. Be mindful of how clean your yard is where you put them. I always dig and inspect the dirt for traces of burnt garbage to make sure I’m not growing on an old garbage burn pile or something. The plant will remediate soil by pulling the toxins into the plant. Many pesticide residues can be removed with various bacillus sp. in bennies, septobac, and other similar products if you are worried.

If you have blueberries growing on the local farms you may find addition of minerals to be of benefit. Crushed dolomite lime, crushed basalt, calcined montmorrilite clays (special kitty). The rain tends to wash these minerals out of sand. Another thing worth considering in agricultural areas is that hills are cleaner than low spots. A place in a field where water collects will also collect pesticide residues, which is noticeable in the poor growth of the plants in that area. The farmer says it’s because of the water that sat there in spring but this has been researched and found to be true. To anybody that plants in cornfields still (?) glyphosate has a half life of 58 days in soil, yet it can be digested fairly quickly with Bacillus subtilus!
 

Freedom seed

Well-Known Member
Urinate in a bottle (yes gross!) Or take a good ol piss around ya area of plants!

I water mine down about 10:1 or 20:1 for foliage. It can burn. Fresh it’s sterile, but grows bacteria rapidly. If you add hardwood ash it will balance at a ph of 7 almost instantly, and work wonders.
 
I’ve heard from guys that use MG to just throw a couple shovels in the bottom of the hole and maybe mix a bit in up top. The problem is that the organics decompose in the ground, using up oxygen, lowering redox, etc. If you mix it completely through and get a heavy rain and it compacts then you have issues. Then there is bugs.

In my sandy loam I cannot believe how good loaded biochar works. I mix it very lightly through my soil. Usually load it with something stinky because it makes the smell go away. Fish filter waste, rotten fruit, etc. It’s a good way to deal with stinky waste. The organics adsorb onto the charcoal and the smell will be gone when it dries. I’m going to try bone charcoal this year, homemade. I just make a fire and then hose it.

If you try an experiment put half in the miracle grow and half straight in the dirt with a little top dressed organic tomato granules and a
fish buried a foot and a half under the root ball, and a tea or two. I guarantee you will never grow with miracle grow again. Stronger plants = less pests. Btw if you put your pests in your tea you will breed their enemies.

A local outdoor grower told me a story last year. He grew in an old pasture clearing in a forest, that had black dirt, never been cropped, fertilized or sprayed. Every year it was easy for him. So last year he wanted to go a little more commercial so he went and bought some miracle grow shake and feed. He ended up with his worst yield and most problems ever.

To get your yield get some decent outdoor genetics, and do the training to open them up. Be mindful of how clean your yard is where you put them. I always dig and inspect the dirt for traces of burnt garbage to make sure I’m not growing on an old garbage burn pile or something. The plant will remediate soil by pulling the toxins into the plant. Many pesticide residues can be removed with various bacillus sp. in bennies, septobac, and other similar products if you are worried.

If you have blueberries growing on the local farms you may find addition of minerals to be of benefit. Crushed dolomite lime, crushed basalt, calcined montmorrilite clays (special kitty). The rain tends to wash these minerals out of sand. Another thing worth considering in agricultural areas is that hills are cleaner than low spots. A place in a field where water collects will also collect pesticide residues, which is noticeable in the poor growth of the plants in that area. The farmer says it’s because of the water that sat there in spring but this has been researched and found to be true. To anybody that plants in cornfields still (?) glyphosate has a half life of 58 days in soil, yet it can be digested fairly quickly with Bacillus subtilus!
Thanks for this info man!

I’ve decided to just mix 1 cubic foot for each plant ; I have holes about 2-3feet in diameter and about 16-18” deep
 
What about moles ? I’ve noticed what I think are mole hills and some tunnels around the Grow area ; didn’t have much of a problem with these things last year ; hope it’s not a new problem /:
 

Freedom seed

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Drop a bit of peppermint essential oil or a mothball in the hole. They will run out. Try to find all the holes that way. Your dog will love it!
 
Not on your plants exactly but have heard of people do so, I use it more like a deterioration for the animals to know a human or predator is about
Last year I didn’t have problems with much of any animals ; rabbits at beginning of veg but that wasn’t too bad ; I started to pee all around my plants all the time and it seemed to keep animals a way ; also put my own human hair around plants and grow area and I think that also helped ;
 
Do ground hogs bother weed plants ? I’m sure I had them around last year but didn’t really see many; this year I am already seeing a couple ground hogs close to my grow area ; just curious if they are a nucence or not .
 
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