Soil run off ph of 5
- Thread starter bigb1987
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add garden lime to your soil mix..problem solved..you can also get dolomite lime mix it with your water and put some around the plant and mix it into the top layer of soil..this will raise the PH of your soil and it WILL NOT GO OVER seven..your ph run off with lime will normally be just under 7 or right about that...
bouncy bob
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I had the same run-off problem but due to caustic nature of garden lime i have never been keen on using it on something that goes down my already sore throat....
I have an altogether more pleasant option...SEAWEED...a tablespoon of calcified seaweed sprinkled on the top of your 5 gallon bucket sorts the problem out in a flash, and if you repot, chuck a teaspoonfull into your soilmix to ensure an acid free soil...
LolipopCrop
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do this here for the next couple of waterings and u will get that prob taken care of..
Silky Shagsalot
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using lime in growing is generally done on outdoor grows. unless your plants are displaying some sort of deficiency, don't sweat it. as long as you're properly ph'ing everything that goes in/on your plants, you should be good. you should never chase ph.
LolipopCrop
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since when? people also grow with dirt outside. your point?
okay so he should let all kinds of unsoluble nutrients build up in the soil so when his PH finally does get fixed his plants will burn up
The only ph that matters is root zone ph. what u add is only going to be an adjustment to the actual root zone ph. if his run off is 5 the root zone ph is right there also. with a ph that low, in order to get healthy plant you will have to drasticaly over feed. then nutrients will build up causing the ph to fluctuate even more at the root zone. what you told him "don't sweat it" would have stunted his plants by starving them now, or burning them up in two weeks. costing him 1/8 of his harvest. don't sweat that.
what does this even mean? do you mean never adjust for PH. so all the scientific studies that prove a proper ph is the key to big buds and flowers, and lawns, and trees, and, and, and, all them studies are wrong?
Silky Shagsalot
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ooooh, a heckler! you're wasting your time junior, i don't get mad at folks like you. if you don't know what chasing ph means, then anyone reading this should ignore any/all of your further posts. hey big b, as i said, if your plants aren't displaying any deficiencies, you're good. when i was in soil (i grow in coco now) i was wigging about the same thing. then i started allowing runoff. this runoff is going to contain excess nutes that have a tendency to accumulate in your medium. this is the reason your runoff is low. this is why a lot of folks do the feed, feed, flush regimen. if you allow runoff when you feed/water, you don't need to do the flush part until harvest.
LolipopCrop
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Silky Shagsalot
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slang from the internet, LOL. i only make changes when my plant tells me it's not happy. i don't know about you, but the majority of everything i know about anything came from reading, you should try it. i don't have a person whispering advice in my ear, but i do know many growers who have been at it for decades. it's not my fault if you're ignorant on some subjects. all of the things i suggest, i've actually done. that's how i know they work. i have no problem with people disagreeing with me. you need to learn how to express yourself w/o coming across as a richard. i will now ignore you. oh, and in case you haven't been told what a richard is, it means you're a dick!
sUpA nOvA D9
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Well a side from the above convorsation...Many experts (not myself, I'm still learning, and experimenting) say every month or 2 to flush the medium with a 3:1 ratio...meaning if you grow in a 3 gallon pot flush with 9 gallons of fresh water( no nutes, ect.), this will make sure you have no build-up and will make things very easy to prevent lock-out.
ive used garden lime..or dolomite lime for awile now..not only does it balance out your PH my run off is at a perfect 6.8...the lime contains calcium.magnesium and all other kinds of good stuff for your plant that is use's as needed..im just letting you know what ALOT of us use..i have had friends who have had ALOT of problems..untill switching to lime additive to their soil...the best way to not have a problem is to have your grow as dialed in as you can get it..then when i problem happens..and that rarely happens if you are doing what you are supposed to...you can recognize it and fix it straight away..if you plant is getting the nutes and minerals it needs and the PH is proper so it can uptake the nutes and minerals..without proper PH your plant cannot eat..all the nutes and minerals it needs...so the nutes and minerals build up ...because the plant lets it sit..and then it burns up your plant..so long as everything you are feeding it is good...and the PH is right..you are going to be GOOD to go..a cheap PH meter can be found on e bay...this is all IMHO..im sure there are other methods..i just use this one..and it works good..and the lime is only like 5 dollars for a 50 lb bag..at lowes or menards..i have never used the seaweed calcium...i am not going to knock it..i dont know anything about it..even where to get it..good luck
shitsngiggles
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Lollipop- obviously you have read and studied quite a bit, and everything you say makes perfect sense
Silky- put the crackpipe down man you sound like a damn fool....and trust me ph of runoff is very important because the root zone ph is what determines nutrient uptake and lockout issues
Silky- put the crackpipe down man you sound like a damn fool....and trust me ph of runoff is very important because the root zone ph is what determines nutrient uptake and lockout issues
shitsngiggles
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Ok I realize this is an old possibly abandoned thread but I want to retract the irration in my response to to Silky: Lollipop did come off as a Richard but I admire his passion for the grow science. That being said I still say that measuring runoff to check root sone Ph is exceedingly important. To correct you can adjust your nutrient solution going in to make up for the drop. When I grow in rockwool and recirculate my res I really don't have any problem with fluctuation...the ph going in is the same as the ph going out. But my current grow is five monster plants growing in sunshine mix number #4 and there can be some fluctuation between 5.4 and 6.5. Doesn't seem to pose a problem as the plants are monsters. In fact I have one plant that was fim'd 4 times while it vegged for 3 months. Then I bent all the main branches down until I had some creases in the branches. It turned into a monster spider looking thing with about 200 tops and its 5 ft wide. Anyway...just ramblin- my last crop I grew buds bigger than your head so heres a link
shitsngiggles
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heres the link https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/139372-my-legal-ca-grow.html tell me what you think
Silky Shagsalot
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i know all i need to know about the potential for hydrogen. that is what ph means. i'm in coco, so it's important to me for good results. if you want, you can scroll back and read it, lol. as mentioned, do what works for you.
i've had some get away from me. those monsters yield!
Silky Shagsalot
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^^^i screwed those quotes up, lol!^^^