FastFreddi
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I think the answer to this one is simply alternate between fresh water, then nutrient water. I have never had a problem with buildup this way. It's comparable to mini flushes all the way through.Not questioning you @Renfro , but how do flood and drain avoid it? I grow in soil btw.
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Well if running expanded clay pellets the drain cycle carries stuff away. Just setting a pot of soil in a tray of nutes will simply suck stuff up and thus likely accumulate salts. Now if just watering and not feeding it's not an issue so long as the roots don't stay drowned constantly, ie let it soak up water for say 30 minutes and then drain the water from the tray. So if running organic soil this wouldn't be terrible as you really don't want to wash out the limited supply of nutrients. When bottle feeding you really want "run off" to prevent salt buildups.but how do flood and drain avoid it?
Where I live the soil is naturally red clay. This is why I grow indoors. That clay is conducive to absolute failure.Well if running expanded clay pellets the drain cycle carries stuff away. Just setting a pot of soil in a tray of nutes will simply suck stuff up and thus likely accumulate salts. Now if just watering and not feeding it's not an issue so long as the roots don't stay drowned constantly, ie let it soak up water for say 30 minutes and then drain the water from the tray. So if running organic soil this wouldn't be terrible as you really don't want to wash out the limited supply of nutrients. When bottle feeding you really want "run off" to prevent salt buildups.
The problem he has is simply the humics (ground up leonardite) from the ancient forest clogging up the pathways where water would normally find passage. I have seen it happen with this and similar products applied generously as a top dress. The mud he describes is very much like clay, fine particle size, not soluble.
I can't agree more. Although admittedly, I have been too much of a pussy to poke all the way down. lolGet a bbq skewer and stab loads of holes in the pot right down to the base. This will help the water go down into the medium.
Your soil is just compacted not rootbound. There’s no such thing as rootbound other than stunting a plants growth. Otherwise it would be impossible to grow these plants in solo cups etc.
Word, Brova Man!I have had to use bamboo sticks, I use for staking, to aerate my pots before.... I mean all the way to bottom of medium, dozens of holes, won't hurt at all.
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Roger that, thank you sir.Well if running expanded clay pellets the drain cycle carries stuff away. Just setting a pot of soil in a tray of nutes will simply suck stuff up and thus likely accumulate salts. Now if just watering and not feeding it's not an issue so long as the roots don't stay drowned constantly, ie let it soak up water for say 30 minutes and then drain the water from the tray. So if running organic soil this wouldn't be terrible as you really don't want to wash out the limited supply of nutrients. When bottle feeding you really want "run off" to prevent salt buildups.
The problem he has is simply the humics (ground up leonardite) from the ancient forest clogging up the pathways where water would normally find passage. I have seen it happen with this and similar products applied generously as a top dress. The mud he describes is very much like clay, fine particle size, not soluble.
Yes it’s light when i water, didn’t start having this prob until i added worm castings and Ancient Forsest on topthey are dry/light when you water? if so, they seem healthy, just thirsty? warm room?
I was actually reading up last night on the compaction of soil and figured thats what it was and that the Ancient Forest didnt make matters any better. Like i had mentioned, when i was using my fingers to aerate and break up the top, i was breaking a bunch of the roots that made it to the top of the soil but i didnt know what else to do. Is that really bad for the plant or should it not stress em out too bad seeing as the entire pot is full of roots? I appreciate your reply!Also, aerating the top soil will break roots, but it's not a terrible thing. They grow back very quickly. Just don't aerate close to the base of the plant. You can't baby these things.
I also read that was an option too, using something to stick in the soil all over the top to help water make its way downI have had to use bamboo sticks, I use for staking, to aerate my pots before.... I mean all the way to bottom of medium, dozens of holes, won't hurt at all.
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You shouldn't have this problem from soil compaction alone, I never have. The soil would have to be really poor quality.I was actually reading up last night on the compaction of soil and figured thats what it was and that the Ancient Forest didnt make matters any better.
I thought salt build up was only any issue when using synthetics? I’m using Organic nutes, can that still happen?Problem there is salt buildups.
It was really light and fluffy as i added quite a bit of extra perlite and a little Canna CocoYou shouldn't have this problem from soil compaction alone, I never have. The soil would have to be really poor quality.
Probably not an issue then, I have never ran the organic nutes personally so I can't testify from experience, but likely not an issue so long as salts aren't used in the fertilizer.I thought salt build up was only any issue when using synthetics? I’m using Organic nutes, can that still happen?
It is totally the ancient forest thats caused the issue. The more you wash it down into the soil the worse it gets.It was really light and fluffy as i added quite a bit of extra perlite and a little Canna Coco
Oh great, its been quite a few weeks since I’ve added it too.Probably not an issue then, I have never ran the organic nutes personally so I can't testify from experience, but likely not an issue so long as salts aren't used in the fertilizer.
It is totally the ancient forest thats caused the issue. The more you wash it down into the soil the worse it gets.