Some Tips for next time Plz

Hey all, let me just start by saying I dont wanna hear people telling me how my yield is small, I know its small, i dont want it to be small, hence im here my good people of Roll it up lol. I dont have the room nor do I even want to make the room to have enormous yeilds personally I think that access to that amount of weed will eventually play tricks on your mind, smoking plants is great yet to much of anything be it medicine or plant just dont float my boat, other people probably love it but ive been down that road before and I aint ever going back lol anyway moving on. This is my first grow, and i hope that you guys would give me some tips on how to get a bigger yield from the space i have etc.

Firstly things that i did wrong

1.Trimmed the topped plant while it was flowering, that was a big no no and i shall't be doing it again
2.Thought I would get a decent dry yield with just a 125w red spectrum CFL (Decent to me being 8-10 grams)
3. Buying soil with knat eggs or whatever they are in it, they dont really do any damage but damn there annoying and get everywhere
4.Letting lots of small crappy popcorn buds, as you Americans would say grow at the lower part of my main cola's, god i hated them so i just cut them off because they were doing my head in, again thoe linked to number 1

Now for the things I want to do next time

1.Lollipop the plant in veg
2.get my hands on maybe 1 or 2 more (limited to space) Cfl's. I cant fit a HPS in my illusive box
3.Add maybe 3 more plants looking at the pathetic yet still some what satisfying size of my buds

Now heres something I bet none of you would guess

There is literally no strong smell off them, yes there's loads of things that effect this E.g Genetics, potency of the buds, resin etc whatever. Im just annoyed that the Internet is so paranoid when it comes to smell lol

Now for the nitty and gritty tech stuff

125WCFl red spectrum
General flora series (micro,Bloom, ?) cant remember the last one, as instructed dividing it all up into a 2 litre bottle
temps between 24 and 27 degrees
humidity 48 the 51
Bog standard pc intake and outake fan
DIY carbon filter (Life saver by the way)
Ph is fine 6.0

Time; lets say 1 month and a half veg to 2, and around 1 month of flower up to now. This is guess work

Im not that bothered when it comes to the massively in depth hydroponics information when some growers just like to nerd out out on here lol but if it helps fire away lol Im more interested in the people that have a big results using stealth grows etc, and just general stealth grow information to help others. If I had the space and the time enormous yields would be a piece of piss but i don't lol So yeah if one of you could just read through what i wrote and maybe give me some tips that would be great, oh and could you tell me how much of a difference the next time points would make, even the smallest difference would be great thanks world

I would suggest trimming less (Although it seems you figured that one out) because it doesn't matter how many lights you have if the plant doesn't have any leaves to catch the light. I would also add at least one blue spectrum (6500k) cfl during the flower cycle, it will help get that potency up, and IMHO more potency is just as good as more yield. Also, just to save you time when people start freaking out that your temps are too cold, I'm gonna translate for the other americans. 24-27 degrees centigrade is 75-80 degrees Fahrenheit, he's not trying to grow in an ice closet.

Also maybe add some blackstrap molasses during flower, in addition to adding micro nutrients it acts as a chelating agent so that the plants can uptake the nutes better.

icebox7420. is that u buddy?

Thanks lads loving the resposes so far and no I aint that guy my manlol

1. The gnat larvae will absolutely do damage by feeding on your roots. That might be why you're showing some deficiencies. After you're done, throw out all that soil and buy some good stuff or cook it in the oven to kill them off. You'll kill off any beneficial bacteria in the soil going the oven cook route though.

2. Way less trimming. The fan leaves gather the light. If you don't have any, it can't gather. Trimming and whatnot is a big debate. Is the stress worth the reallocation of flower production?

3. I'm constantly experimenting with different styles and techniques to see what works in real world applications. I suggest the same. Good luck and keep at it.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this yet, but your plant stretched to reach the light, causing more space between each node. Lowering lights can be a pain so I am propping up my seedlings on boxes to make them higher and will remove the boxes as they grow. the bushier, the better-the more growth and hopefully more buds. you won't need more than one plant once that is sorted, especially with you "topping" and creating more cola's

Agreed, jazzpot: the NUMBER 1 REASON that your yield is not where you want it is bc your light is in a fixed position at the top of the box.

The heat and lumens from a cfl diminish very quickly the further you get from the bulb. By having your bulb fixed at the top, the plant is going to stretch and reach as far and as fast as it can to get to the light, which might sound like a good thing but it causes stretch. When your plants stretch, the distance between the nodes (or branches/bud sites) increases, and if your nodes are too far apart you can't get those nice, full, dense colas. Figure out a way to hang your light closer, even if its just getting one of those light bulb sockets that plugs straight into the wall, and have it hanging from an extension chord. Even a 135watt cfl bulb should only be like a couple of inches from the top of the plant.

Secondly, and this is a big one: watts=weight. Yeah, you can talk about skill and knowledge and training and technique and nutrients all day long, but at a certain point its important to understand that ANY plant will only be able to produce as much bud, as it has energy to do so. Meaning there is going to be a maximum amount of of weight that a 135 watt van get you, and differences in strain/technique/health of the plant etc will only lower it from there, depending on how well everything goes. So I would definitely put some more wattage in that cab, however much it can hold. Shit even just simple 23 watt (100w equivalent) cfl bulbs would help- and like I said, hang them if you can, it will help train your plant to support weight if you can keep it closer.

I guess it's also important to mention that weight is only as good as not only THE LIGHT it has, but also co2. Plants use co2 and light to convert/produce their sugars and starches, and so if they don't have enough (it won't take much) fresh air then the lights are no good. But I noticed you mentioned having an intake so you should be good. Even if its not pulling fresh air from outside, just pulling air from outside of the box helps (there's actually usually more co2 inside someone's house then there is outside. Higher concentrations, anyways).

But yeah, other than those basics, there are tons of other things/techniques you could do that are a little more advanced to help kick up your yield. You could try something like a scrog (screen of green) net across the top of that little space.

Or, what I would do personally, would be to get another one or two of those CFLs that you have, and stack them all on top of each other in the middle. Have you ever heard of a verticle grow? Its supposed to be the most efficient way of getting the most grams per watt. You hang a bulb vertically in the center, and then put your plants around it. It works great in small spaces, and you can combine the two techniques I've mentioned and do a verticle scrog-- put like 2 plants in there, directly across from each other (with the light hanging in between them). Then you take a circular piece of mesh, like a round tomato trellis, and have it in between the plants and the lights, circling around the light.

Its crazy, check out the vert section. I'll see if I can find a link, but one guy posted a picture of a little vert scrog cab grow, and his screen was basically just a wall of buds on the bulb side.

Either way, there are definitely tons of things you can do to increase your weight! Say, you wouldn't happen to have space in there for a co2 tank, would you? Just kidding, nyuck nyuck nyuck.

Edit: typos, typos typos

Don't stick to one spectrum. I've noticed better growth with a mix. In veg don't just use 6500, throw a little 5000 and 2700 k in there. In flower add a little 5000 and 6500 k to the mix. I think plants just look and perform better that way.

I trim my leaves some and top my plants alot during veg. When they go into flower I remove some more leaves because they get so bushy its hard to get good air circulation into the middle of the canopy. As you are aware looks like you went a bit over board.