Someguys Perpetual Parabolic SCROG Cabinet grow (trying to actually keep a journal)

pinkjackyle · Nov 14, 2009

im really loven this hempy , a little shitty 2-3 in clone groes to 15inches in 3 weeks under floros , sweet !! katie bar the door this summer 30gal tote under the southern sky its gonna b huge . i really like it when peeps grow bag seed and especally mexi schwag it is very possible 2 come across some killer genes . good growen and ure buds look yum yum bongsmilie

SomeGuy · Nov 14, 2009

Thanks for the props pinkjackyle and welcome!

All my bagseed comes from pretty dank stuff... but I know there are probably some that are better than others. All of em are from bags I had in CA so it could be anything. I have grown mexi before though and come out with some decent looking plants too.

SomeGuy · Nov 18, 2009

Update! End of first week in the hps cabinet. (vegging cycle)

Took clones of the bagseed, sour berry, and god bud.

Flouro cabinet is in the 6th week of flower and got their first dose of gravity tonight. They swell from here on.

Heres the pics:

Mammath · Nov 19, 2009

Ahhh... the beginnings of another great venture.
I love seeing where it starts!
Always plugged in to your grows dude with great expectation

Looking good SG.

cruzer101 · Nov 19, 2009

Boy, that sure is an even canopy under those floros.
How many ya got under there? Is that the bag seed?

SomeGuy · Nov 19, 2009

Mammath said:
Ahhh... the beginnings of another great venture.
I love seeing where it starts!
Always plugged in to your grows dude with great expectation
Looking good SG.

Thanks mate! I love dropping in on yours too. U are very close! no new begginings for you and your heat though

Always like having you drop by for a peek.

cruzer101 said:
Boy, that sure is an even canopy under those floros.
How many ya got under there? Is that the bag seed?

There are 5 plants. 2 in 1.5gl containers and 3 in 64oz. The two in the big ones are Blue mystic and the smaller 3 are the same bagseed I just harvested. Thanks for the compliment on the scrog, its tough to get em all about the same height in there..LOL

McFunk · Nov 19, 2009

Those are beautiful sights to behold, man!

I can't wait for the 'bolic to show it's stuff!

Freakin' awesome, SomeGuy. Always dig your up dates.

McFunk

cruzer101 · Nov 19, 2009

SomeGuy said:
Thanks for the compliment on the scrog, its tough to get em all about the same height in there..LOL

You got it bro,
I know how long it takes to get those little bitches to do what you want.
Yea, I can tell you got some time invested in that one.

When training I have always stopped at two weeks into flower but I get a bit more height then I see here. Whats your rule of thumb as to when you stop? Is it when you see a bunch of pistils?

SomeGuy · Nov 19, 2009

cruzer101 said:
You got it bro,
I know how long it takes to get those little bitches to do what you want.
Yea, I can tell you got some time invested in that one.

When training I have always stopped at two weeks into flower but I get a bit more height then I see here. Whats your rule of thumb as to when you stop? Is it when you see a bunch of pistils?

It is different for flouro vs. hps. In Flouro I tie down for about the first 3 wks or so as to keep the bottom buds still getting some light penetration. I also only fill the screen to half before flipping to keep it low.

In the hps cabinet I tie down for the first 2-3 weeks and not past. I have found that if you let the hps cabinets get taller the light penetration is still good, you just get a bit more yield.

your hps cabinet is looking pretty even right now.

I am working on the parts for my auto-feed system, so more R&D is under way.

SomeGuy · Nov 19, 2009

McFunk said:
Those are beautiful sights to behold, man!

I can't wait for the 'bolic to show it's stuff!

Freakin' awesome, SomeGuy. Always dig your up dates.

McFunk

I cant wait either. It is always a fun time! I am excited for the new year as I will be getting some new supplements to play with and maybe a couple other toys for my last several grows in these cabinets.

pinkjackyle · Nov 19, 2009

pinkjackyle · Nov 19, 2009

as i smoke , was wondering if uve considered doing 2 in 3gal buckets under those t5s ? might increase bud size , i enjoy being a sharp pain in tha a$$ :eyesmoke:

SomeGuy · Nov 20, 2009

pinkjackyle said:
as i smoke , was wondering if uve considered doing 2 in 3gal buckets under those t5s ? might increase bud size , i enjoy being a sharp pain in tha a$$

I have done bigger containers in the flouro cab and it makes no difference on yield. I think it really is just a light penetration issue. I run 220w of compact t-5 and I still think If i switched to a 250w hps I would get better results. I may in-fact just do that after the new year. Then I could have two hps cabs pumping out the bud.

Cannabud · Nov 21, 2009

hey mN, VERY NICE GROW! it is an exact blue print of my intentions. I see you refer to your cab size as 14x28...what is the third dimension. how many cubic feet in your cabs and how much air do you move. my question mark key doesnt work, so ignore my lack of proper grammer. also,m what height from your plants is your hps...im trying to design a cab with the absolute minimum heightr and maximum lateral space for a 400w hps bulb. your screen is 4 feet square (well, parbolically shaped of course) do you think a larger screen would equal more yeild or is the use ful light sphere maxed out in your design. congrats again, you are by far one of the most useful ppl on this site!!!

SomeGuy · Nov 22, 2009

Cannabud said:
hey mN, VERY NICE GROW! it is an exact blue print of my intentions. I see you refer to your cab size as 14x28...what is the third dimension. how many cubic feet in your cabs and how much air do you move. my question mark key doesnt work, so ignore my lack of proper grammer. also,m what height from your plants is your hps...im trying to design a cab with the absolute minimum heightr and maximum lateral space for a 400w hps bulb. your screen is 4 feet square (well, parbolically shaped of course) do you think a larger screen would equal more yeild or is the use ful light sphere maxed out in your design. congrats again, you are by far one of the most useful ppl on this site!!!

~I think the height is 72" for the whole cabinet height. Not sure how big just the grow chamber is, will have to take a measurement when lights on.

~I have a 300cfm inline fan pushing air through a big can carbon filter in the top of the cabinet. There are holes in the top of the cab with register covers to allow that air exhausted into the chamber to exit passively (less noise).

~I am about 20" or so from the lamp center to screen. As the plants grow they get closer to the light. However, if you air-cool the light separately from the grow you could get much closer. Cruizer has a great journal with his cab and air-cooled lights.

~I could handle probably triple the square ft of screen if I had the space. I think that footprint would max out the usable light in this setup. Meaning... that if I had the space I think I could get very close to pulling a pound from this 400w lamp.

Thanks for stopping in, glad I can/have helped you out. Half the fun is engineering the setup.

Earl · Nov 22, 2009

Are any cab growers using C02 ?

cruzer101 · Nov 22, 2009

I find using co2 in a cab is tough because of the size.
My cab heats up too fast. Have you tried it guy?

SomeGuy · Nov 22, 2009

Earl said:
Are any cab growers using C02 ?

cruzer101 said:
I find using co2 in a cab is tough because of the size.
My cab heats up too fast. Have you tried it guy?

I have not but have wanted to. I think there was one guy who made the mega mooby of all grow cabinets. His build etc.. is here:
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/70716-building-stealth-super-cabinet-least.html

I think that if I used about a 300 cfm inline to cool the 400w light I would not need to exhaust the grow area continually. Then I could just keep the environmental controls at 85 or 90 degrees so the room would exhaust less often. I would also need intake dampers to keep all the air in. This way I could introduce CO2 and have it stay around for a bit at a time. Problem is engineering such a setup into a small space. Eventually I think I will be able to build what I need and get it running. I already have a 20lb tank, just need the other junk and a good design and Id be rockin.

Earl · Nov 22, 2009

I think c02 would really speed up your grow.
Hope you get it rigged soon.

SomeGuy · Nov 22, 2009

On another note.... I am thinking about some new nutrients after the new year. I am getting gifted some Hornsbys big bud and some bud blood. I have been looking at iguana juice from AN. I think I will still use the BMO Super Plant Tonic as I have never used anything so effective on roots. Just looking to try these out, chime in if any of you have experience with these.

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