someone know about old coins?

heathaa

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i have two coin like trinkets here. one is very good shape it has a cross with globes on the ends of the cross stating that its french struck in mexico. this would put it back to colonial time. they are one sided. one is a shipwreck find and is corroded and cant be read and its been cleaned but i didnt clean it i just bought them. i was hoping to find a reference or something to look for i see no initials or numbers
 

darkdestruction420

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interesting, where did you buy them at and from who and how much? I been half ass following/interested in stuff like this on and off and alot/most of the times they are fakes that someone made down their to sell to the tourist industry(while claiming its the real deal of course).
 

heathaa

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well i bought them both for 23 dollars. here in florida. the one on the right is old and is ate up from saltwater i know its shipwreck the other one looks too good to it could be a replica but its pure silver both of them. the one that is in better shape on the left has the cross and globes on the end and that tells me its spanish struck in mexico in colonial times. thats all i know. they are one sided and you really cant make out anything on either one of them
 

darkdestruction420

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the darker one kind of looks like this from what the graphics on my computer can show but since your actually able to look at the pattern better since youve got the coin and can study it closer. what do you think? do the patterns match up good or is it just my computers graphics suck?
 

heathaa

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the bottom one looks like the one on the right with the exception at each end of the cross there are globes imagine cutting your bottom coin out around the flower looking wreath thing and thats pretty much what it looks like except silver. ur top coin has a lot of resemblences, but its so ate up from saltwater its pretty much not able to be matched unless someone has a keen eye. but im curious as to why they are only one sided. one is also twice the size as the other
 

darkdestruction420

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i havent given up yet, i got through all the spanish coins in/from the colonies, no luck really yet, a few looked close but none of them said anything about being french and minted in mexico despite the french occupation of the colonies so im moving on to the french currency list. i think ive got a pretty good chance of finding it there.
 

heathaa

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i know but it suckz when you want to know about a peice but cant find information on it. what a buzz kill
 

heathaa

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i havent given up yet, i got through all the spanish coins in/from the colonies, no luck really yet, a few looked close but none of them said anything about being french and minted in mexico despite the french occupation of the colonies so im moving on to the french currency list. i think ive got a pretty good chance of finding it there.
yeah its the one is definately spanish due to the cross and the four quads representing spanish rule and the globes on the end of the cross mean its from mexico. thats all i know here are some slightly better pics0919101810a.jpg0919101809b.jpg
 

darkdestruction420

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no luck, lol, i looked through every currency that was listed in the wiki for the time period of 1500-1850 and i couldnt find anything about it but a few things really keep jumping out at me, 1. I cant find any info on any spanish coin that was only struck on one side, ive went to google now and looked through a bunch of *treasure shops* and none of them mentioned it 2. its miscolored compared to all the silver spanish coins ive seen.3. the shape is very unusual and the only ones i saw with it was made before france took over for a while.4. all spanish silver minted in the new world ive seen have had proof marks somewhere on them, yours oddly do not. I'm still looking cuz i really want to find out, lol, but im getting less optimistic after each hour of fruitless looking. Maybe you got something super rare there or maybe a reproduction?(doesnt mean it has to be a recent reproduction of course)
 

heathaa

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well the one on the left is hard to make out anything but it seems to fit the obverse side of a reale. but its so corroded from saltwater its hard to tell or get a positive id. the other one looks really nice but it has age because you cant make out the symbols in the quad. now either i have a replica which is possible on the nicer one. or i got something so rare its worth a fortune. the nice one seems too nice to be the age of the design on it. it also seems like the one could be a mold and poured it. i think its called a melt. which is basically a name for a peice that was melted and poured into a form. the old corroded one is somethin though due to the corrossion and discoloration of the salt in the water. i just cant pin point anything on it. we have one coin dealer here and i went to him a few years ago and he seemed shady so im not up to taking the peices to him.
 

quietguy420

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They appear to be decorative pieces meant to be attached to things like a cup or a suit of armor or a sword or any other metal.
 

heathaa

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well i just got a shitstopper of an email. i posted an ad on craigslist to the coin collectors to identify the peices. the email i got some one said 13,000 to 20,000 dollars if they are authentic i asked the person what they are and how they base their price and said get a lawyer and sell at auction. so im wrote them back and asked them what they based this on and see if i can learn more about it. ive never seen anything like it and if they are authentic and worth that much through research and appraisal i scored
 
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