Something going on or just nearing the end?

MJCanada

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Day 61. Trichomes are mostly cloudy with maybe 1 amber per bud.

I over did the nutes about 2 weeks ago and thw sugar leaves definitely are showing that.

I used maxibloom for the flowering nutes. Had a bit too much N by the looks of the leaves while they first started showing the nute burn a dew weeks ago.


Over the last week I have noticed considerable yellowing of the lower half of the plant. Also noticed what looks like p and k early early stages of deficiency.

I am kinda inbetween feesing anymore or just water till finished. I assume i got about a week left(so 1 more watering)

Thoughts?
 

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Roger A. Shrubber

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doesn't look like a major problem to me, might be a slight Zinc deficiency. about the only thing i know that turns leaf tips white.
 

fn217

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Are you over watering? What's your watering schedule like? The poofy/swollen leaves usually indicated overwatering to me.

Also, you should have started flush a week ago for a proper two week. You are very very green for the last week. Start flushing now, consider taking the plants an extra few days to help with the leaching.

I have used botanicare's "clearex" with good success, you may wish to as well.
 

MJCanada

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My watering has been fairly consistent in flower at about 6-8 days.

60 days into flower and I have watered at least 7 times. Kinda odd for this to be overwatered on the last 1-2 waterings without any pot changes?

I would say a pot change would open the door for it cause I wouldn't know a dry pot feel but I have been lifting this pot every 3-4 days for 2 months... i will go an extra day or to for the next water.
 

fn217

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My watering has been fairly consistent in flower at about 6-8 days.

60 days into flower and I have watered at least 7 times. Kinda odd for this to be overwatered on the last 1-2 waterings without any pot changes?

I would say a pot change would open the door for it cause I wouldn't know a dry pot feel but I have been lifting this pot every 3-4 days for 2 months... i will go an extra day or to for the next water.
If you are watering only when the pots are dry, you are good. No need to change anything, as it's probably unrelated.
 

OldMedUser

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doesn't look like a major problem to me, might be a slight Zinc deficiency. about the only thing i know that turns leaf tips white.
Those tips look like normal tips to me and I see it on my plants all the time regardless of strain. An early indication of impending nute burn but without burned margins just below the burn line.

I've been having fairly serious problems with my CBD plants that have been in the same pots of soil/soilless for around 6 months and sadly neglected due to my health issues that have been corrected for the most part, (Leaky appendix for the last 5 years).

Finally got around to sussing out what the problem is and have concluded it's a zinc deficiency which is quite rare but with the length of time in the same media, low feed levels that I consider low on Zn in the first place and using Cervante's chart and grow bible hard copy with all it's clues can't find anything that matches the symptoms as close. Very similar to low manganese, Mn, but doesn't have the telltale green margins on the leaves. Newer leaves are developing interveinal chlorosis, small dark spots then dropping off. Flowers are not developing at all after 9 days of 12/12. Tips and margins are discolouring and burning and the youngest tips distorting. Older growth still healthy for the most part. (Note the tiny grow tip with buggered leaves center left).

All three plants have the same symptoms but the hemp one, my Otto#1 girl, is the worst with older growth getting into it now. This pic is her tonight and shows leaves with all the symptoms.

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To treat the 3 plants I pulverized 2 - 50Mg tablets of Chelated Zinc Gluconate I take for my health, a B-100complex cap, selenium tab and half a tsp of Epsom salts with 4 drops of conc. sulfuric acid to drop the pH for 3L of RO water planning to give them a liter each. Being not sure of the toxicity level of Zn I diluted it to 4L and only gave them 500mls each. Should be enough to show some improvement in a couple days if I pegged it right. They needed water so soaked them down with more RO.

When I flipped the plants I gave them a good dose of some 3 year old Sensi Grow A&B, half dose each of Big Bud, Bud Factor X and Bud Ignitor along with a 1/4 dose each of Rhino Skin and Growtech CalMag. Pinch of Epsom Salts in 9L of water so they got 3L each and a bit of RO to wash the top free of nutes and soak the 4gal pots good.

I thought maybe that it was the Sensi gone bad that caused it but thinking back I saw these problems 3 months ago They were already touching the ceiling in the grow room then so strung a light chain across the front of them so they could lean on that while I was out of town for a month while the wife gave them enough water to keep them alive. Got to be 7ft tall plus a foot for the pot so I built a 4x4 lightly framed screen and have them bent over that pointing down about 45°.

I just went and checked my notes for my 7 week old veg plants from seed and waddaya know. Their last 2 feedings were Sensi and they look just fine. Drop that "maybe" to the bottom of the list.

I started using a different Super HPS made by Light EnerG to try it out and got thinking that maybe it was responsible for the lack of bud development so swapped out the new 1000W MH/HPS mag ballast and that bulb for my old 1000W MH mag and the 940W Hortilux conversion bulb that has proven it's worth on two previous grows. I doubt very much now that light is a factor but it's a great light so I'll let it run for the rest of this grow.

All this being said I sure don't see any sign of low Zn in the @MJCanada 's plants. They look to have a little burn going on and I would suggest a 1 volume flush to reduce the amount of nutrients, especially N, this late in flower. More water if it's getting that close to harvest and let the plant salvage the nutes it need to finish from itself so the big fans start yellowing fast.

Sorry about the long story but this is the kind of process I go thru any time I run into plant problems whether it be my plants or some new grower's plants and they need help fixing what ails them. I was a big Hardy Boys fan as a kid and still have a big box with almost the whole collection from the early and mid sixties. My boys aren't readers so didn't want them. Get to relive some of that when I hunt for clues to fix plants I guess. :)

Have a Merry Xmas! xmastree.gif

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MJCanada

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So, we're at day 66 of Flower and that one girl is fading fast. She's at about 20% amber...

I've only watered with plain PHed water for the last 2 waterings (~15 days total).

My other girl seems fairly dark(green), but just starting to show signs of fading in the lower leaves.

Both girls bud's sugar leaves are really stretching for the light. This girls fan leaves are all fading yellow, like N deficiency.

Curious on everyone's thoughts? I'm sure she'll be cut within 3-4 days from now.

I'm thinking she's just near her final days and knows it...
 

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MJCanada

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I was thinking the same thing but wasn't sure as this is my first grow...

Wierd eh?

This one didn't fill out nearly as well as my other lady (diferent strain).

This pic is the 2 ladies i the room under led.

The other trichs are almost all cloudy with a few clear and the odd amber. Probably another solid week for her.


Anyway I guess I need to leave her another few days.
 

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Roger A. Shrubber

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i think i would wait another day or two, but i'd be keeping an eye on it. if it keeps going amber and doesn't develop a lot more milkies, i'd go ahead and take it.
 

MJCanada

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I got about 30-40% ambers now... going to wait another day, but if she goes much past 50% I'll be cuttin her down.
 
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