Something is wrong with the leaves, can somebody tell me what that is?
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Its a myth. Fans do aid in air circulation though. If mold or mildew is a potential problem, a fan will help. Also if your grow area doesnt get any natural ventilation, fans help as well. It also helps keep some pests away. But it doesnt make stems/stalks thicker.
Here is another opinion
https://www.rollitup.org/blogs/blog28-more-myths-explained-truth-about.html
Also check out some of RiddleMe's journals. There is a treasure of info in them.
I dont want to try to start a match, but there is no evidence that a fan has that affect. My next question would be, how much sway/swing is needed to make the stalk thicker? What if I blow the plant full force on the fan, will it make it "super thick" as opposed to a gentle breeze?
I have grown with and without fans. Growing the same strain, both with and without a fan showed no marked difference in the size or stability of the stems and stalks.
So I will kindly disagree.
wangyunan
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I also heard someone said that squeezing seedling's stem without breaking the skin can thicken the stem...... I mean I can understand that concept is just like using a fan to give stem acceptable pressure, but thaz what I will never do, to risky on seedlings, plus, weed already took away my steady hands...lol
I didnt say it wouldnt help the plants or wasnt needed. I said its a myth that the fan causes the stems and stalk to be thicker or stronger. They can help alot with regard to air circulation, mold prevention, and pest control.
Also, I'm not the first as you can see in this journal entry. https://www.rollitup.org/blogs/blog28-more-myths-explained-truth-about.html
But hey, its not going to hurt the plant so its not a big deal.
Steroids and dumbells on the other hand....well I dont know
Thats common in many training techniques. Its done to allow the stem to be bent without breaking. I've never heard of anyone doing it just to make the stem ticker. Why would you want to? Unless your buds are so heavy they are falling over, but I would rather support them with rods and string, rather than mutilate the stem and stunt the growth.
Medi 1
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when i say it helps them i dont mean its going to be a double thick stem as others....and again. not a myth. how did you test this then...with your eyes...how bout trying a micrometer to get a real anser then.
and yes i pinch the stems all the time and it works real well. better than the fan does. just needs to crush the outer pulp is all and will be way thicker. its very noticeable. just gently roll between fingers and feel the pulp break slightly. few days later it heals and is quite a bit thicker. same concept as when we break bones and calcium forms to heal it. our bone is quite a bit thicker then.
and yes i pinch the stems all the time and it works real well. better than the fan does. just needs to crush the outer pulp is all and will be way thicker. its very noticeable. just gently roll between fingers and feel the pulp break slightly. few days later it heals and is quite a bit thicker. same concept as when we break bones and calcium forms to heal it. our bone is quite a bit thicker then.
A botanist I am not. So I cant comment if that true or pure bull***.
It sounds logical. But I have no idea. I guess I would wonder is, wouldnt it be better to to let the plant alone? It seems to me the time and energy required to heal would out weigh the benefit. Its not like its increasing in size that much? Do you do this all the time? How does this happen in nature?I can see it now...
pH meters to run a diagnostic. Followed by an intense workout in the wind room (with or without the steroids and dumbells), and finished with a nice massage.
Seems a bit Club Med to me LOL
WWND...What would nature do?
Medi 1
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i work with legit dr`s on this type of stuff so it do have fact not just a guess.
there is a fine line on how much and often to run this. dont be doing this all the time. like i wouldnt do more than once a week or so. outdoor in nature sure dont happen as often, but may say if wind snapped over a branch. it will heal and grow to make buds and have a knuckle where it broke over. thats LST same sorta idea. not to keep canopy even but less stress and makes them thicker and stronger.
i stagger where and when i do it to not stress alot at once or in 1 erea. and yes it gets way bigger. try it on 1. even 1 pinching, right between the nodes, gently roll it back n forth between pointy finger and thumb....like a doob...lol. youll feel the pulp crush...squeeze till you do. then i rotate that section of stem almost right around...or half way. you should see the veins twist a bit there where this is done. now leave it. check it in a week.
there is a fine line on how much and often to run this. dont be doing this all the time. like i wouldnt do more than once a week or so. outdoor in nature sure dont happen as often, but may say if wind snapped over a branch. it will heal and grow to make buds and have a knuckle where it broke over. thats LST same sorta idea. not to keep canopy even but less stress and makes them thicker and stronger.
i stagger where and when i do it to not stress alot at once or in 1 erea. and yes it gets way bigger. try it on 1. even 1 pinching, right between the nodes, gently roll it back n forth between pointy finger and thumb....like a doob...lol. youll feel the pulp crush...squeeze till you do. then i rotate that section of stem almost right around...or half way. you should see the veins twist a bit there where this is done. now leave it. check it in a week.