Spider mites, how long to shut down a grow to get rid of them?

most miss the white flecking you get on leaf surfaces that is the early sign you got mites

Fastslappy said:

nothing to do with mites but after 36 hours I got this burst of explosive growth with blue corn SSTView attachment 3761331 lateral caudexes have also doubled & are making branching bud stems
frost has doubled over nite

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What nutes and lights are you using Bro? I appreciate all the good information.

g/h & organic in coco
i do indoor led cob in winter spring

sprouted seed tea
you sprout seed & when the sprout is the length of the seed you liquify it in a blender , the idea is at that stage the seed is producing a huge amount of growth hormones & enzymes & by blending in distilled ,R/O water u extract them & immediately apply to the roots , even foliar some guys do IIRC
I strain it to get most of the solids , in your case I'd top feed/dress like i do
I use blue corn as corn is a fast start grower with powerful hormones, chia, barley, can be used these are the cheaper alternatives that get the lowest priced seed
Ya soak the seed for 12 hours shake everywhile & change water 1/2 way thru (the water has a emergence limiter hormone so discard water each time u shake & never use to extrac )
then place seed between wet paper towels in a dark tub
they be ready when when the sprout is the length of the seed
wash well as discussed
liquidfy with fresh R/O
I do 2 cups seed at a time every 2 days is what i'm gonna run
I got 10lbs of seed for this summer run
that was the 1st application

Fastslappy said:

nothing to do with mites but after 36 hours I got this burst of explosive growth with blue corn SSTView attachment 3761331 lateral caudexes have also doubled & are making branching bud stems
frost has doubled over nite

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What kind of nutes you usin "bro?"

Organic
Grd fish kelp,alfalfa, various flours,humid,fulvic,coconut milk, amnio acids,yucca,wood ash ,rock phosphate, seabird/bat shit high phosphorus
LAB inoculate to breakdown all these hard bubble all day
SST every 3 day blue corn sprouted

Colo MMJ said:

What kind of nutes you usin "bro?"

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Sunrise i 'll post a. new pix gonna be football colas

Dude you should make your own nutes and bottle that shit. Crazy. Is this all polycarbonate and solar? How do you cool it in the summer.

swamp cooler dbl wall poly on the roof & glass dbl pane side walls , was built for orchids

I,m having to stake each & every bud

greasemonkeymann said:

I hear ya man, but it's a fools errand, we have four types of mites out here, and they are EVERYWHERE.
i'm literally in a redwood rainforest (well, when it rains)
believe me, I've tried it all, for five yrs now, the previous 20 yrs or so of growing I never had problems past the occasional outbreak, but it was all controllable, the problem is the forest is CRAWLING with mites, so eradication is simply not plausible.
it's all about CONTROL, which is why I spend about 600 bucks a yr on predator mites.
150 bucks an ap, and get em when it's in vege.
and the predator mites only stick around if it's a happy-medium with the reg mites, in other words if the predator mites eat ALL of the reg mites, they leave...
so ya gotta keep some around for them

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What is up monkeyman? Which predator mites do you like? Lacewings? Trying to build a ladybug house to keep them around. You have to get the adults to mate and they go from egg, larvae and pupae. The Pupae eat mites not adult lady bugs.

May I ask where you get them? Any way to build a house for them to stay? Thanks.

Colo MMJ said:

. The Pupae eat mites not adult lady bugs.

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both , pupae , & adult Lady Bugs eat mites , mite larva , mite eggs seen that with my own eyes under a hand scope .
I put a pint a week into the G/H no mites , i see the start of flecking every once in awhile but come hours later there's a few LB scurrying around the spot then the flecking stops immediately .

I've always had good luck with neem oil for indoor mite problems. Typically I'd bomb the room with pyrethrum and then dip/spray plants with neem for several weeks and mites die off. Also cleaning and vacuuming any adjacent areas.

Fastslappy said:

both , pupae , & adult Lady Bugs eat mites , mite larva , mite eggs seen that with my own eyes under a hand scope .
I put a pint a week into the G/H no mites , i see the start of flecking every once in awhile but come hours later there's a few LB scurrying around the spot then the flecking stops immediately .

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Thanks. I saw a good you video and the guy built a little home for them with a humidity dome, natural sponge for moisture and raisins for food. He said to put it in the shade. Release them in the humidity dome not on the plants. A pint a week is cheap insurance.

Yeah 1st year i did weed it was a mite disaster in the g/h
pred mites don't work well on weed to far to travel to eat then they eat each other , imo
LB run pretty fast & then they can fly when they need to .
when I see them fucking all over the place , it's time to get a new crew lol
look into lacewings as well

thenotsoesoteric said:

I've always had good luck with neem oil for indoor mite problems. Typically I'd bomb the room with pyrethrum and then dip/spray plants with neem for several weeks and mites die off. Also cleaning and vacuuming any adjacent areas.

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Yes neem oil plus rosemary oil plus peppermint oil
kill the mites instantly completely safe for human consumption
nature has the answer fuck chemicals
32 Oz spray bottle, half ounce neem oil, quarter Oz rosemary oil ,quarter oz peppermint oil, squirting dawn soap to emulsify oil into water spray on never have bug problems again
this info needs to get out to every grower

onegreenthumb said:

Yes neem oil plus rosemary oil plus peppermint oil
kill the mites instantly completely safe for human consumption
nature has the answer fuck chemicals
32 Oz spray bottle, half ounce neem oil, quarter Oz rosemary oil ,quarter oz peppermint oil, squirting dawn soap to emulsify oil into water spray on never have bug problems again
this info needs to get out to every grower

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U use that on flowers ?

Fastslappy said:

U use that on flowers ?

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Yes you can and yes I would to save a crop then use it weekly on new grows until week four of flower you will never have bug issues again of any kind

Colo MMJ said:

What is up monkeyman? Which predator mites do you like? Lacewings? Trying to build a ladybug house to keep them around. You have to get the adults to mate and they go from egg, larvae and pupae. The Pupae eat mites not adult lady bugs.

May I ask where you get them? Any way to build a house for them to stay? Thanks.

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the mites I use are the fallacis, and californicus.
the DO NOT work in HIDS, or high temps, the spider mites simply out-procreate them.
however in vege, and lower temps they do great.
heres the kicker though, you need to balance them a lil, meaning if you dump like 10,000 predator mites on ten plants, yea, they'll annihilate the spider mites, but when they are done, there is nothing left, and they disappear.
so you want a balance.
at any temps above probably 75, they just can't keep up.
at 90 there is NO chance at all.

they are expensive as well, usually an application is around 150 dollars for 20 plants. (money well spent though, no repeat applications)

for vege there is NOTHING else I prefer, they are reaaally good at keeping the mites down, I just gotta figure out a way to do that in flower, my 1200 watts get the temps to high
predator mites hate the heat, while the spider mites love it, soooo yea..

greasemonkey is right about all he posted , i found the same thing as well preds are great if the infestation is small & constant temps
high summer forget about it , once u see webs