jonnynobody
Well-Known Member
I use to use azamax but it's fucked up overpriced and in previous experiences it wasn't very effective. Plus it stinks like shit. I ordered captain jack's dead bug and have venerate CG on hand. This is really more preventative because I had an infected plant in my veg area. My suspicion is there are mites in the flower room now as a result of cross contamination. I sprayed with a product called grandevo CG yesterday and completely fuck that garbage. It has a clay carrier in it and it coats your leaves. It doesn't harm them but it looks like dried up white shit speckling the leaves allover. I used it before around week 6 of flower with no ill effects other than the annoying clay that was visible on the leaves. This time I used it in week 3 of flower and it literally turned the pistils brown on 3 plants out of 12. I can't imagine why the others were not affected.
All were hosed down with the same solution. I emailed the company and threw the product in the fucking trash where it belongs. Shit was like $60 a bottle too. What a kick in the nuts. The venerate CG is good stuff, but I would never recommend their grandevo CG unless you plan to fuck your pistils up and potentially slow the development of your flowering plants. Fuckers.
I've heard some growers suggest a mixture of hydrogen peroxide at 3% 1C/gallon water. It's said to kill mites but not eggs. I've got veg plants going on top of my flower room. I obviously can't spray neem on flowering plants, but I hear it's one of the few organic options that eliminate mite eggs. Killing adults seems to be fairly easy. The fucking eggs are what gets us. I've heard
1 Tablespoon Neem Oil
1 Tablespoon Moap or Castile soap
is a good mix to emulsify the thick neem oil so it blends into solution with the water. I also heard someone using ProTekt to emulsify the neem. Is one preferred over the other or will they both get the job done? Depending on the recommendations here and what I read elsewhere I plan to buy some neem today and an emulsifier. I've got a yucca extract (hygeia hydration), but it seems like the castile soap would be more effective for suffocating the eggs. I'm spraying the h202 on a single vegging plant tonight to see if it causes any harm. If all is well I'll apply it everyday for the next 8-10 days.
That should interrupt 2 larval cycles thoroughly reducing the population. Then I'll apply avid followed by forbid 3 days later. I'm interested in getting away from the poisons. If this neem oil works effectively with an emulsifier I have no problem applying it every 3-5 days. I'll still treat my plants entering the flower cycle with forbid on day 1 of 12/12 and then move to neem oil after that. I'll also rotate neem oil with the h202. I applied floramite a few hours ago, but the motherfucker about that shit is A) it's highly toxic (why it works) and B) it still doesn't kill the fucking eggs. That's a shitty solution to a big problem in my opinion. Avid is said to kill eggs also, but it's even worse than the floramite.
I have only ever had mites 3 times in 10+ years of growing. Every fucking time it's when I accepted a clone from someone else's garden. This infestation is from a single clone I accepted. Live and learn man. What else can ya do? Anyone else use this h202 or neem oil treatment? Any other suggestions are more than welcome. Right now I've got venerate and soon to arrive spinosad (captain jack's) to rotate through the rest of flower every 3-5 days. I'm really interested in hearing some feedback on neem oil. It seems to be the only dam thing that takes out the mite eggs when used properly. I'd love to actually hear that from someone that has used it
All were hosed down with the same solution. I emailed the company and threw the product in the fucking trash where it belongs. Shit was like $60 a bottle too. What a kick in the nuts. The venerate CG is good stuff, but I would never recommend their grandevo CG unless you plan to fuck your pistils up and potentially slow the development of your flowering plants. Fuckers.
I've heard some growers suggest a mixture of hydrogen peroxide at 3% 1C/gallon water. It's said to kill mites but not eggs. I've got veg plants going on top of my flower room. I obviously can't spray neem on flowering plants, but I hear it's one of the few organic options that eliminate mite eggs. Killing adults seems to be fairly easy. The fucking eggs are what gets us. I've heard
1 Tablespoon Neem Oil
1 Tablespoon Moap or Castile soap
is a good mix to emulsify the thick neem oil so it blends into solution with the water. I also heard someone using ProTekt to emulsify the neem. Is one preferred over the other or will they both get the job done? Depending on the recommendations here and what I read elsewhere I plan to buy some neem today and an emulsifier. I've got a yucca extract (hygeia hydration), but it seems like the castile soap would be more effective for suffocating the eggs. I'm spraying the h202 on a single vegging plant tonight to see if it causes any harm. If all is well I'll apply it everyday for the next 8-10 days.
That should interrupt 2 larval cycles thoroughly reducing the population. Then I'll apply avid followed by forbid 3 days later. I'm interested in getting away from the poisons. If this neem oil works effectively with an emulsifier I have no problem applying it every 3-5 days. I'll still treat my plants entering the flower cycle with forbid on day 1 of 12/12 and then move to neem oil after that. I'll also rotate neem oil with the h202. I applied floramite a few hours ago, but the motherfucker about that shit is A) it's highly toxic (why it works) and B) it still doesn't kill the fucking eggs. That's a shitty solution to a big problem in my opinion. Avid is said to kill eggs also, but it's even worse than the floramite.
I have only ever had mites 3 times in 10+ years of growing. Every fucking time it's when I accepted a clone from someone else's garden. This infestation is from a single clone I accepted. Live and learn man. What else can ya do? Anyone else use this h202 or neem oil treatment? Any other suggestions are more than welcome. Right now I've got venerate and soon to arrive spinosad (captain jack's) to rotate through the rest of flower every 3-5 days. I'm really interested in hearing some feedback on neem oil. It seems to be the only dam thing that takes out the mite eggs when used properly. I'd love to actually hear that from someone that has used it
