Spider mites

Throwed

Active Member
I put Neem Oil on my bitches when they get 3 weeks old and every 7 days after that. I call it preventive gardening. My bitches have their immune "shot" before they go outside. 8o)
 

sgt d

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Yup, you have to spray em with something; neem or any one of the more gnarly products like floramite. The most important thing is to spray with REGULARITY. Skip one here, put it off a day there, and before you know it you've screwed yourself but good, and it's the mites' world, and you're just livin in it.

I know some who say, also, that ya have to wash them off. That is, apply the neem spray, let it sit for an hour or so, and wash it off with plain water. Some say not, but I have seen my plants go all weird and fucked up a couple of times if I didn't wash em after spraying em with something. So along with spraying, watch em closely, and if it seems they're hatin the spray, wash em off and try something else.

As long as theyre small enough to fit in a 5 gal bucket, I think dipping them is more efficient than spraying. Feels that way to me, anyway.
 

dbkick

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I just recently found I'm having a little mite problem and bought one of these!
atomist.jpgAlso bought a gallon of purespray but upon using the atomist (I recommend a speedster speed controller since its so harsh if you don't dial it down a bit)with nothing but pure water I'm thinking I won't be needing the purespray but WILL use it if needed. This thing and a speed controller set me back 270 US dollars but its money well spent.
 

dbkick

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The problem with any oil you use to spray is it does nothing more than suffocate the little bastards, this leads me to believe that at the very least SOME stomata plugging occurs, I intend to spray with nothing but pure water with the atomist and if I find that isn't doing the job I'll mix in a little purespray but then is a day or so I'll wash again. Any oil that suffocates to kill is gonna clog stomata until at least the oil is completely evaporated.
 

Mary I Wanna

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I put cloves of garlic on the ground around my plants, I've never once had a problem with any bugs or animals.. When the cloves start to shrivel up put new ones down.. Im not sure if it will do any good once you have them but it does a great job of keeping them away...
 

dbkick

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I HEAR companion plants like clove and garlic repel the little bastards too. wish I had the room for some.
 

BubbaKusher

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Makes sense, ill look into that, thanks
The problem with any oil you use to spray is it does nothing more than suffocate the little bastards, this leads me to believe that at the very least SOME stomata plugging occurs, I intend to spray with nothing but pure water with the atomist and if I find that isn't doing the job I'll mix in a little purespray but then is a day or so I'll wash again. Any oil that suffocates to kill is gonna clog stomata until at least the oil is completely evaporated.
 

BubbaKusher

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Great idea, thanks ill try it
I put cloves of garlic on the ground around my plants, I've never once had a problem with any bugs or animals.. When the cloves start to shrivel up put new ones down.. Im not sure if it will do any good once you have them but it does a great job of keeping them away...
 

BubbaKusher

Member
I bought a gallon hand pump sprayer, prob going to get some mite solution and use that, spray the girls > wait an hour and prob wash them down with water > going to be a lot of work
I just recently found I'm having a little mite problem and bought one of these!
View attachment 1541793Also bought a gallon of purespray but upon using the atomist (I recommend a speedster speed controller since its so harsh if you don't dial it down a bit)with nothing but pure water I'm thinking I won't be needing the purespray but WILL use it if needed. This thing and a speed controller set me back 270 US dollars but its money well spent.
 

BubbaKusher

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I will use your technique, thanks > starting em in green house
I put Neem Oil on my bitches when they get 3 weeks old and every 7 days after that. I call it preventive gardening. My bitches have their immune "shot" before they go outside. 8o)
 

BubbaKusher

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100% Pure Neem Oil Spider Mites Relief Insect Control Leaf Shine

$9.97

Neem oil 8oz is pressed from the seed of the neem tree. Neem oil leaves a natural shine on leaves without clogging stomata that leaves need to take in carbon dioxide and release oxygen and water vapor essential to the basic functioning of the photosynthesis process. Pure Neem Oil is an organic all natural leaf polish that leaves a natural shine.

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The problem with any oil you use to spray is it does nothing more than suffocate the little bastards, this leads me to believe that at the very least SOME stomata plugging occurs, I intend to spray with nothing but pure water with the atomist and if I find that isn't doing the job I'll mix in a little purespray but then is a day or so I'll wash again. Any oil that suffocates to kill is gonna clog stomata until at least the oil is completely evaporated.
 

dbkick

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You're talking to someone that dislikes neem but has never actually used it. I have used sns 217 and its nothing but rosemary oil extract, it isn't going to come down to what you use its going to come down to how diligent you are with your sprayer . I don't believe for a moment that a insecticide thats made to suffocate critters will not clog stomata,. This is why I'll only treat as needed and will use the atomist more than likely daily with various foliar feed things.I just don't buy it , if it kills by suffocation it will clog stomata and SHOULD be rinsed .
 

msrelief

Member
I search RIU for more info about neem and am going to try it with my newly discovered fungus gnat problem. Anyways, couldn't find any application rates or how to apply it, googled it and thought I'd past it here too - I think it is the rest of the above:
Description:
Neem Oil affects over 400 varieties of insects and is an important part of an integrated pest management strategy. This foliar spray is 100% pure neem oil from the neem tree. In addition to working as a natural leaf polish, neem oil is a biodegradeable, fast acting insect bio-inhibitor. The oil is absorbed by the pests and interferes with reproduction and feeding for a steady decline in population. The 8 ounce bottle makes 8 gallons of solution.

Application Rates
Mix 1 tsp of neem oil and 1/2 tsp of liquid dish soap to 1 quart of water, or 4 tsp of neem oil and 2 tsp of liquid dish soap to 1 gallon of water. Shake well. (Neem oil mixes easier with warm water.) Spray the diluted solution generously on all leaf surfaces.

Also more about how/why it works on wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neem_oil

I used to spray a diluted version that also had rosemary, geranium, lavender and cedar oil on my pets that went outside, back when I had pets, and it really helped with bug control - I'm happy to find out I can use it again with my "new pets"...
 

msrelief

Member
Also - from my past pet experience and knowledge of Diatomaceous Earth (DE) Here is the most thorough website that I ever came across that addresses DE, how it works, what it works on, where to buy it, how to apply it - everything. http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/diatomaceous_earth_mites.html I am a long time DE user and should have thought to mix it in with the soil to start with. My first set up here, so I guess that I had enough to think about just getting the basics down. DE is great!! It has to come in contact with the bug though - so it must be applied thoroughly and correctly IMO.
 

Throwed

Active Member
I will use your technique, thanks > starting em in green house
No prob. You will definatly need to use this technique when using a Greenhouse. Spidermites is a common problem in Greenhouses when Neem Oil is not used. I completly soaked my ladies leaves with Neem Oil today and transplanted their sexy assess in the ground. They are immuned and ready to go with a shot of Fox Farm(Big Bloom&Grow Big)/Super Thrive/Distilled Water on their roots.
 
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