So I am currently in week 4 veg and the spider have begun to appear again, I had them on my last grow but around 2 weeks before harvest and now they have appeared really, early any tips on how to get rid of them, I have tried neem oil, defoliation, dr shimo and they still persist, anyone know any good chemical or method to get rid of them? Thanks for looking
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Nope_49595933949
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Clean the whole area
Bud man 43
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Green Clean or Dr zymes
Already did and it did not help a lot
I will try them out thanks
Actinolite
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Not to sound like a dick but then you didn't clean enough.
They don't live without living plant matter & their eggs are destroyed pretty easily with either harsh chemicals, H2O2, Essential oils or some kind of fogger.
They are honestly not that difficult to remove if you aren't doing some sort of perpetual grow where they can migrate from room to room.
If you really did clean well enough to get rid of them, then you brought them back in again, either on your clothes or bringing in plants from untrusted sources.
As far as getting them off of currently alive plants goes, since you're still in veg you can be pretty aggressive and your plants will recover. There are plenty of miticides out there, or if you wanna make your own, use Essential Oils (peppermint oil, rosemary oil, etc. if you go this route absolutely do it right before you turn out the lights and give the plants like 6 hours before turning them on again or you'll burn the crap out of things) mixed with some soap and potassium bicarbonate or sodium bicarbonate and literally wash each leaf, both top and bottom and all the stems, wipe down all table tops and surfaces they might have fallen on to. This will kill the mites and their eggs (which are typically on the bottom of leaves and why a lot of people fail to get rid of them).
You'll have to treat the plants a few times a week probably for multiple weeks if you really wanna get rid of them all, your plants will probably suffer a bit of deformation and burns and lose a lot of leaves, but it can be done.
Ye i understand i mean i Cleared out the whole room and mixed warm water with bleach and sprayed down everything the ceiling walls floor lights everything that they could have been on and I thought that would do the trick but unfortunately not so i will have to take into account the other factors that you have mentioned, thanks for replying.
Rob Roy
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If you're going to spray in flower, I wouldn't use neem. Citric acid solution can get you to the finish line.
I've used green cleaner, but I'm leery of using anything that can harsh on the trichomes. Trifecta will work in flower, but can leave some taste and will rip a hole in your wallet too.
One thing about mites, if you don't hit 'em every other day for a while, while doing a complete cleanup, they will regroup and keep coming back.
I've used green cleaner, but I'm leery of using anything that can harsh on the trichomes. Trifecta will work in flower, but can leave some taste and will rip a hole in your wallet too.
One thing about mites, if you don't hit 'em every other day for a while, while doing a complete cleanup, they will regroup and keep coming back.
Are you in soil?
Sofa King Smoooth
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I had an infestation last summer and after treating the plants I noticed some survivors would climb up anything that was available and some made it to corners in the upper part of the tent and made webbing on the cross bars.
I don't know if there was anything alive but didn't notice those areas when I first cleaned.
Coco soil 60/40
Ye I see they like to hide around and wait for a good opportunity to attack haha
So would yo recommend in me using green cleaner as I am a week away from flower and then how often should I use it?
Bud man 43
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Lay each plant down and spray the underside of the leaves really well- soak them good - roll the plant and try to get every leaf. Do it every 2-3 days and I would delay flower for at least a week until they are under control. The green clean will kill the mites and eggs that it comes in contact with. Everything missed will breed again quickly. Prune any leaves that are heavily infested and dispose of the leaves immediately outside. If they are at the point of webbing on the plant- it is bad
Phytoplankton
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Spider mites, AKA "The Borg", are insidious. You can clean the crap out of everything and they are so small they can be carried on a gust of wind, or easily brought into a tent on your clothes, both the adults and eggs can also overwinter in cold areas and re-emerge when it warms up. Many sprays don't kill the eggs. You're still in veg so your options are more numerous. At this point you could use a pyrethrin based spray, you can mix it yourself or use a product like Dr. Doom, which is a "Bug Bomb". Another one I used is called "Mitely Wash", not sure if that's still available. There are also lots of oil based products, soaps etc. You need to break the life cycle, which is fairly short, so it will take two or maybe three applications about 3-5 days. If you spray, make sure you spray "up her dress" (undersides of the leaves) the stems and the soil surface. Increasing the humidity can help a little, at least spider mites like it fairly dry (and hot).
Actinolite
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It's hard to get everywhere they could be, they don't move far or fast but their eggs go everywhere and can survive a long while. Last time I went through this it was only after weeks of daily leaf checks under a microscope or magnifying glass looking for any dot or anything that moved that they were finally gotten rid of. It doesn't help that once they are threatened or sprayed a lot of times they'll last ditch lay a bunch of eggs in a small crack in a leaf.
Your plants might look pretty messed up after you're done dealing with them but they'll recover and you'll have some sanity back.
Like others have said their life cycle is hatch, live for a day or 3, lay eggs, which take like 3-7 days to hatch if the weather's right, repeat. So you gotta really stay on it and keep killing them over and over and over again till they're all gone
Rob Roy
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Green cleaner will work in veg. Might want to spray with the grow lights dimmed / off or just before lights out so you burn the mites and don't burn the leaves. Don't forget to spray the whole plant. (UNDER the leaves and any stakes or netting too) Green cleaner has some instructions for use on the bottle. Amazon sells it.
If you're in veg, sulfur works well on mites and helps with the powdery mildew. Pretty cheap too. Don't overdo it, it will burn plants if you go overboard.
Citric acid or trifecta is what I would use in an "emergency" in flower situation. You can get a bag of granular citric acid pretty cheap online.
If I see signs of mites I spray as much as every other day until I'm confident I'm winning. I'm real hesitant to use anything other than habanero spray on seedlings or smaller clones.