Spinning light setup! pretty cool.

shannonball

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the guy makes and sells them from his garage. thought i'd share it with everyone. he mainly sells to the medical growers on the west coast. hasn't made many sales to the east or midwest.
 

Detroit J420

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I have herd sunpulse bulbs increase potency but lose 30% yeild, but when you use the spinner nothen beats it with uvb and all.
I guess there working on chips where it spins to a specific pulse that mimics the sun of any country on earth, so when you order your strains you can match where they came from.
Only thing next is order exotic soil from Africa or india lol
 

ExDex1x1

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This system seems interesting but I just don't think it would be as effective as a traditional linear light mover. You're rotating over the same location so you are getting more light penetration, but aside from using the single spinner (as opposed to 2-6 spinners they have) it seems like you're just wasting money. The single spinning unit would increase the area you're covering marginally, but if you have 2 or more lights on the same spinner it's just redundant and you're covering the same area just twice as often.

I cant see this being more effective than a linear rail system. What would be much more interesting is this technology applied to rotating the plants themselves so that each side of the plant receives ample time exposed to lighting.

Keep in mind the site also states that a 1000w attached to this system grants an effective 1200w of coverage on the same space, so the real question is whether or not the initial expense, the operating costs, and the upkeep of the unit itself is actually cheaper than the theoretical 20% increase in yield. Considering these seem to be literally just modified ceiling fans I really doubt the cost is worth the improvement. These motors are designed to spin extremely light weight fan blades and typically (from my experience with ceiling fans at my old apartment and friends homes) units last anywhere from 3-5 years before the motor burns out or you start having to replace components. The additional weight of lights would be enough to shorten the lifespan of these motors significantly (also the single light unit is ridiculously imbalanced unless there is some sort of counterweight that I havent been seeing on their website) which is going to warp the drive shaft and shorten the lifespan of the unit even further.

I'm interested to see the actual cost/yield statistics, but for my money I'll be sticking with traditional movers for now.
 

Detroit J420

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Your talking every spectrum all them bulbs in that spinner, and the extra weight of the spinner just means a more high quality motor it can last 10 yrs without burning out for all we know. Casablaca makes fans that cost a grand they last for like 20 yrs. And what really kicks this spinner off is the ability to get like 1600 watts inches from the canopy without burning wich gets you pretty damn close to the suns power few people on here have them and they all say there the fucken best lights ever. People knock sunpulse cause they only use one of there bulbs at a time but use all of em now your big time.
 

Detroit J420

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From my expierence of using mh hps and uvb all at once in flowering you cant beat all spectrums quality goes through the fucken roof. And with getten the lights so close to your plants yeild sky rockets man your lightmover has nothing on the spinner read posts of people who own them you wont hear a single bad word about them.r
 

ExDex1x1

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From my expierence of using mh hps and uvb all at once in flowering you cant beat all spectrums quality goes through the fucken roof. And with getten the lights so close to your plants yeild sky rockets man your lightmover has nothing on the spinner read posts of people who own them you wont hear a single bad word about them.r
Thats all fine and dandy. You might increase potency and yield significantly using 3 different types of bulbs, but there is absolutely no way that the increased cost of having 3 bulbs operating over the same area is going to be more efficient in terms of grams per watt per dollar. You're going to get more bud, sure, but you're also going to spend 3x more on your energy bills. 3000w on a 5x5 area as opposed to having 1000w covering a significantly larger spacial footprint is going to increase your yield with only marginal increases to your operating costs, and getting the lights closer to your plants is accomplished just the same with a light mover as it is with this spinner technology.

There's no way in hell you could even consider a light spinner to be on par with a light mover unless the arms of the spinner were significantly larger. If you had longer arms that allowed for you to have only a slight overlap of lights in the center and you were able to have 3 lights rotating over a significantly larger area, then perhaps this technology would be more efficient, however in this iteration of the idea of spinning lights all you're accomplishing is soaking the ever living hell out of a confined area with significantly more lumen per square foot. If the diameter of the rotation were adjustable so that you could have a larger circular garden then, yes, this technology would be awesome but this is not the case.

Long story short, will it increase your yield? Yes. Will it increase it enough to offset the increased operating costs of more lights being used for the same amount of space? Perhaps. Will it be more efficient than traditional linear light movers? Not in this form. Not even close.

Being a successful grower isn't about being on the cutting edge of technology all the time, it's about being on the cutting edge of efficiency and minimizing the amount of money you spend per gram without decreasing the quality. This product fails in that regard.
 

shannonball

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i think you guys both make good points. you should email the owner at the site and ask him these questions. All i know is that the commercial growers are using his product big time in their operations. Both in the US and Canada. So i'm guessing they know what they're doing versus us folks growing in a tent, shed or computer case. jus sayin...
 

ExDex1x1

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i think you guys both make good points. you should email the owner at the site and ask him these questions. All i know is that the commercial growers are using his product big time in their operations. Both in the US and Canada. So i'm guessing they know what they're doing versus us folks growing in a tent, shed or computer case. jus sayin...
Realistically this tech is only applicable in small growing operations. If you're confined to a small grow where you have to eek out every bit of growth you can in a confined location then by all means adapting this technology will improve your yields since you're unable to adapt light movers into small grows. However, the real use of this technology would be much better applied to LED lighting. HIDs have a fairly high light penetration ability especially when higher wattage lights are used but LEDs severely lack in canopy penetration in comparison and also generally have a smaller area which the light is reaching. Spinning 2 or more different LEDs over the same small location would definitely increase your yields significantly without increasing your operating costs too greatly. The only added costs would obviously be the higher upstart cost, which I believe would be more than justifiable in this situation as a long term investment.

For my money however, i won't be adopting this spinner technology unless more features are added. If you could adjust the length of the arms on re spinner and have the ability to integrate LEDs im not interested. I could see these being vastly improved in the future and im quite excited to see where the technology goes, but at this moment Ill remain wary of its advantages until we see some actual yield comparisons made between a standard grow, spinner grow, and light movers.
 
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