spring planting in the woods

my main grow is indoors, but I've been thinking about trying outdoors too. just plant a whole bunch of extra bag seeds in the woods and see what comes up. I haven't done much research on this subject, because I'm focusing on my hydroponics, but maybe I can get a few quick tips.

there's my favorite state park. I love to go mountain biking there. somewhere over 1000 acres. I was thinking about finding a nice remote place where no one ever goes. try to find someplace really hard to get to, like maybe only a single hidden path to get there. I haven't been looking yet, but I'll start keeping my eye out for the perfect place soon. I wont be cutting down any plants or destroying anything natural aside from only adding the new plants to the land. I love the park, and very few people litter there (I'm very thankful of that).

should I just plant the seeds in the ground in the spring about a half inch deep? or should I germinate them at home in a nice warm damp paper towel first? should I wait until about a week after the last frost for the year, or should I wait longer until we have weather about 40f? adding fertilizers is an option, but do I have to water them manually?

if the area does get discovered, what is likely to happen? I would guess it would either be robbed, destroyed, or staked out. would it be obvious and noticeable if it was staked out?

depending on where you live April would be a good time to plant the seeds. The less trips you make to the site the better. If your the only one who goes there you would notice other paths going to it or and suspicious activity around it.

any tricks to tell if someone else has been there?

I think I'm turning into more of an illegal thrill seeker..

I think the more you put out and the more elaborate the set up, the more serious you will appear to the police and the better chance it can get staked out or have motion detecting cameras set up.

Public places are scary because of the amount of people who may go all over in them for dozens of differing reasons including the people who work at these places. Also, in my area, the public land is flown over hard every year.

You will also need water so you will have to be close to a stream (flood risk) or a pond (people magnet) or you will have to back it in with a back pack.

I think the best way to go if you want to do this is to go very small with just a few plants at the most. Leave no equipment behind (buckets, pots etc.) and watch out going in and out as far as leaving a trail to them.

One of my favorite outdoor types of spots is in thick thick cedars. They are a pain to walk through and you can't see past the next tree so its harder for people to see them unless they stumble right into them. You may have to pack in a few bags of good soil though. Cedars will grow in a cone shape which will allow a good amount of sun down into your little spot while offering excellent concealment. If the trees are thick, than it will take a direct hover over for a helicopter eradication team to find the plant(s).

Dan Nabis said:

I think the more you put out and the more elaborate the set up, the more serious you will appear to the police and the better chance it can get staked out or have motion detecting cameras set up.

Public places are scary because of the amount of people who may go all over in them for dozens of differing reasons including the people who work at these places. Also, in my area, the public land is flown over hard every year.

You will also need water so you will have to be close to a stream (flood risk) or a pond (people magnet) or you will have to back it in with a back pack.

I think the best way to go if you want to do this is to go very small with just a few plants at the most. Leave no equipment behind (buckets, pots etc.) and watch out going in and out as far as leaving a trail to them.

One of my favorite outdoor types of spots is in thick thick cedars. They are a pain to walk through and you can't see past the next tree so its harder for people to see them unless they stumble right into them. You may have to pack in a few bags of good soil though. Cedars will grow in a cone shape which will allow a good amount of sun down into your little spot while offering excellent concealment. If the trees are thick, than it will take a direct hover over for a helicopter eradication team to find the plant(s).

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great info, thanks. I've actually heard of people planting "inside" pine trees, like under the branches. I used to play in trees like this when I was little, so I know there is room for a good size plant, but there is very little light. I think that is just dumb. I haven't gotten much good advice from people I hang out with.. I have a relative who's a real pro at growing, but I only see them maybe once a year. one day I'll get to talk to them about this fun stuff.

I think what you meant by the ceders is planting behind or in between the trees, where there is light, but blocks the view. your post is getting the gears in my head moving better. trying to think of the perfect place for it. I'll have to go for a walk and keep a sharp eye out for "the place"

yeah, where I live we have cedar and not pine. I would much prefer cedar because of its shape being conical. At least the ones around here are. I would plant in very small open areas inbetween them. The last spot I used was a great one (until a housing development was built there). I had a half a dozen spread out in little open spots that would fit a single plant each. I would have a hard time finding them in the dark and would have to remember the exact layout of the area.

I also didn't ever notice any kind of trail amongst the cedars. I would pack my water in a big army duffle bag with 2 liter bottles and when I used fertilizer I would dissolve it into the water in the bottles. I went stealthy and at night only and the way I did it, I really didn't have any excuse if I got caught out there with that army bag of water so it was always scary shit out there in the middle of the night.

The last time I used that spot was the summer before they built the houses. I had no idea it was coming. I saw some orange flags in the area and went out and grabbed all my colas about a week or two early just in case. Went back to get the rest and it was all taken. Probably the surveyors found one and then scoured the hell out of the area to find the others, lol.

I love the guerilla farming. Its in my veins. I do it for a summer or two and then quit for years at a time sometimes. Its tough on the nerves. The seasons that I don't do it I dream all year long about it and then I feel depressed that I didn't give it a shot. I dream constantly about it. About looking for places, getting busted, having spots way too close to the public, harvesting etc. I love it.

This is my first year for about 8 years now I guess. I grew one last year and got the bug real bad so I did a few more this year. I want to again next year but I'll make that decision come spring time. Its tough on the nerves having a family and responsibility. I don't want to make life hard on them should I get caught. I also have two teenagers that I am afraid of putting two and two together.

One method I used this past winter to find spots was google earth. Its really really good for finding those open holes in cedar groves. I would check out that entire public area you are thinking about. It also helps you to see where truck paths are, out buildings, water etc. I tried a couple spots this year along a creek I canoe on and fish in. It was the perfect cover because I can bring a bucket with me and have a reason to be way out there. I found my spots using google earth. I even saw areas I liked but could tell that four wheelies use the nearby area so I passed. Unfortunately, those spots I did use were devastated by the flooding from Gustav and Ike and the only ones I have left are the few that are in some woods far away from running water.

Dan Nabis said:

yeah, where I live we have cedar and not pine. I would much prefer cedar because of its shape being conical. At least the ones around here are. I would plant in very small open areas inbetween them. The last spot I used was a great one (until a housing development was built there). I had a half a dozen spread out in little open spots that would fit a single plant each. I would have a hard time finding them in the dark and would have to remember the exact layout of the area.

I also didn't ever notice any kind of trail amongst the cedars. I would pack my water in a big army duffle bag with 2 liter bottles and when I used fertilizer I would dissolve it into the water in the bottles. I went stealthy and at night only and the way I did it, I really didn't have any excuse if I got caught out there with that army bag of water so it was always scary shit out there in the middle of the night.

The last time I used that spot was the summer before they built the houses. I had no idea it was coming. I saw some orange flags in the area and went out and grabbed all my colas about a week or two early just in case. Went back to get the rest and it was all taken. Probably the surveyors found one and then scoured the hell out of the area to find the others, lol.

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if someone did spot you, I guess your only option would be to run like hell, in any direction except home. if I go at night in a state park, I don't have much of an excuse. I can probably find a place to park my car, but it would be quite a walk. a good 20 minutes each way at least. gotta watch out for hunters too.

Dan Nabis said:

One method I used this past winter to find spots was google earth. Its really really good for finding those open holes in cedar groves. I would check out that entire public area you are thinking about. It also helps you to see where truck paths are, out buildings, water etc. I tried a couple spots this year along a creek I canoe on and fish in. It was the perfect cover because I can bring a bucket with me and have a reason to be way out there. I found my spots using google earth. I even saw areas I liked but could tell that four wheelies use the nearby area so I passed. Unfortunately, those spots I did use were devastated by the flooding from Gustav and Ike and the only ones I have left are the few that are in some woods far away from running water.

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I'll try to take aerial shots from google earth and overlay them with a map of the park. maybe I can even get it to print out on a few pages. mark a few good possibilities on the maps then go check them out. sweet plan right there

there are a lot of 4 wheelers in my area too. a lot of red necks and new yorkers moving into the area. the state park is protected from them at least. anywhere else in the area, there could be 4 wheelers. they usually can't get past ceder trees. that reminds me, there is a place near by. there is a 4 wheeler trail along a bunch of trees. there might be a good spot in there, but there's no water.